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Posted on: August 8, 2011 12:45 pm
 

DeSean Jackson ends holdout, joins Eagles camp

Posted by Will Brinson

Over the course of the last week, DeSean Jackson has reportedly ended his holdout not just once, but twice. We're happy to inform you that "DeSean Watch" is now officially over, as the wide receiver has reported to the Eagles camp.

Jackson was, per our Eagles Rapid Reporter Kevin Noonan, around on Monday morning, undergoing his physical. However, he wasn't actually seen by reporters until he pulled up to camp shortly after lunch on Monday afternoon.

"Wasssup," Jackson said, per Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Daily News.

Jackson also informed reporters that he'd be practicing on Monday afternoon but was otherwise quiet.

There shouldn't be anything shocking about Jackson eventually showing up to camp, even though he's been pretty adamant about wanting a new contract and even though everyone (including QB Michael Vick) seems to have known he'd holdout a little bit.

Jackson stood nothing to gain by holding out until he actually got a new deal; he stood to lose a pile of money and a year of service. And the Eagles aren't exactly timid about holding their ground with players who holdout. Additionally, is Jackson really going to miss out on the chance to take part in the team of his -- and everyone's! -- dreams?

Doubtful. And it doesn't sound like he'll be too far behind because of the time he missed either.

"DeSean's in phenomenal shape, he's been hitting the weights and he'll have a phenomenal season," Vick said, per the Eagles official Twitter account. "He's ready to go."

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Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:40 pm
 

Roundtable: Are the Eagles the Heat of the NFL?



Posted by Eye on Football Staff

Throughout the 2011 season we'll assemble our crew to discuss important NFL issues, Roundtable style. Though there are more pressing concerns for Philly right now, and though we've discussed this topic on the podcast, we want to know: Are the Eagles the NFL's version of the Miami Heat?


Will Brinson: The Philadelphia Eagles -- or, at least, Vince Young -- believe they're building the NFL's version of the Miami Heat. Obviously, this involves acquiring one of the top-five players at three-fifths of the starting positions on the roster? Oh wait, they didn't do that? Yeah, I don't think the analogy really works either.

That being said, I'm open to the idea that the Eagles are going out and turning themselves into villains while picking up all the biggest names in free agency. Or at least that they're putting a target squarely on their backs as we prepare for the 2011 season to start.

Josh Katzowitz: I find it awesome that it was Vince Young -- I mean, VINCE YOUNG!!! -- was the one who made the comparison. As if he's the key cog of that Dream Team that everybody in the league was trying to secure. I actually think Young gets a bad rap because of his attitude, because I think he's got talent and, most importantly, he's a proven winner. But in this case, he's the guy who's going to be holding the clipboard for Mike Vick. If this were the 1992 Olympic Dream Team, Young would be Christian Laettner. No, he'd be Christian Laettner's valet.   Anyway, I don't see the Eagles as the villains. Unlike the Heat, this wasn't some kind of conspiracy. It's not like Jason Babin and Cullen Jenkins decided to join forces because they're such good friends. It's not like Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie somehow orchestrated the Kevin Kolb trade. And no matter what you think about Nnamdi Asomugha's intentions, he didn't ask for a one-hour national TV special to announce his decision.    To me, the Eagles -- and Vince Young -- aren't the bad guys. They're just the guys who have pushed all their chips into the middle of the table and are trying to take down the pot with the best hand. Which, if the Eagles want to win a Super Bowl, is exactly what they needed to do.

Ryan Wilson: We talked about this on the Eye on Football podcast, but the Eagles can't be the NFL's version of the Miami Heat because if we're going down that road, the Jets have already done it. In the three offseasons Rex Ryan has been in New York he's yet to meet a player with more baggage than talent that he wouldn't acquire if he thought it meant more wins.  The Eagles have Nnamdi and, well, that's about it for big-name talent. Rodgers-Cromartie is a nice player, but the Cardinals traded him for a reason. Vince Young, as Josh points out (and to tie this back in to the Cards) is who we thought he was.  The Jets, meanwhile, have had LaDainian Tomlinson, Jason Taylor, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards and Antonio Cromartie mosey through the organization since Rex's arrival. And whether you agree with the personnel philosophy, it's hard to argue with the results; the Jets have appeared in AFC Championship games twice in two years, and the 2011 team looks to be the best of the bunch. Plus, as Josh notes, it's hard to hate the Eagles because they haven't won anything. In fact, I half-expect them to falter under the weight of all the preseason expectations, and then all that will be left is to find a way to blame it on Donovan McNabb.

Katzowitz: Well, I think you can still not win a thing and yet be hated. Look at the Heat, for instance. I think the reason the Heat were hated so much is because it was clear LeBron James felt like he couldn't win the title on his own, so he was willing to join forces with his buddies (and take a back-seat role!) to try to buy his way to a ring. There's a big difference between that megalomaniac (and egotistical) approach and improving your team with what looks like pretty smart (though costly) acquisitions. Even with a convicted felon starting at QB, the Eagles aren't hateable. They're just a team trying to win a Super Bowl. Just not in the manner that James and company tried to employ.
Brinson: You can totally lose and be hated -- it's just easier to hate teams and people who win all the time, especially if the folks involved are especially hateable. That's what strikes me as odd about this Eagles team: there isn't anyone you can really hate. I mean, you can dislike VY, but can you really hate him? He's a 28-year-old quarterback who's already fighting his way along the comeback trail, having dealt with mental issues and repeated benchings for Kerry Collins. (That's not hate-worthy material; more like mocking sympathy or something.)

And is Nnamdi the equivalent of signing LeBron James? Um, no, and for several reasons. One, he's not even the best player in the NFL, even if he is the best at his position. And two, he's like a really nice, soft-spoken guy who takes kids to the Met when he's visiting New York City. That's the total opposite of generating money for the Boys & Girls Club by doing a one-hour ESPN special with Jim Gray.

Vick, I guess, is worthy of folks' scorn, but only if you're really, really adamant that anyone who ever harmed a dog deserves never to be given the liberties associated with the Constitution despite having served the required amount of jail time.

Or if you're a PETA member.

Wilson
: Here's the deal, at least in my mind: no, the Heat-Eagles comparison doesn't really work. And even though Philly is imminently likable (even lovable when you see Andy Reid on the sidelines) by fans outside the NFC East (and cat lovers), that will all change if they start winning consistently. Part of that is our fault -- if the Eagles jump out to a 10-0 start the media will be all over it, and fans won't have any choice but to hate them. That's how these things work. The Pats, Colts and Steelers are the most obvious examples, sort of the NFL equivalent of the Yankees and Red Sox. The Eagles are a long way from that level of hatred, but a nice winning streak and wall-to-wall media saturation can change that in a hurry. So in honor of T.O., former Philly wide receiver who really had a knack for getting people to loathe him, I will get my popcorn ready. Just in case.

Brinson: I'd agree with you except the just signed Ronnie Brown and, obviously, that put them over the top. Except not at all, but that's the narrative we'll be hearing the rest of the week I presume.

Vick will be a great litmus test for the symptoms that come with over-exposure to winning. There's absolutely no doubt that the Eagles will be shoved down the public's throat in 2011 -- I count a whopping five (!) national television appearances, and that doesn't include another five (!) that are all but guaranteed to be the CBS or FOX national games of the week.

People didn't hate getting too much of Vick last year because it was an out-of-nowhere comeback story for the ages that polarized the opinion of everyone watching -- either you didn't believe he deserved a second chance or you were thrilled to see redemption on a national stage. Plus it didn't hurt that he was single-handedly marching millions of people to fantasy football titles.

This season will be vastly different because there are expectations -- in both real and fantasy football -- and that always changes the way we perceive athletes. Fans of other teams who rooted for Vick's story won't be doing so this year and if he struggles at all, it won't be nearly as sweet.

Plus, NFL is all-in on the Eagles, so we will be seeing a lot of them even when there's not football being played -- they're the premiere team when it comes to updates, peak-ins, discussions and (duh) roundtables.  So in that sense maybe they are the Miami Heat, who somehow warranted their own section on many a sports website during the 2010 season.

Which means we've somehow come full circle on this analogy. At least until Mike Kafka's under center in Week 5.
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Posted on: August 3, 2011 11:17 am
Edited on: August 3, 2011 11:21 pm
 

Merril Hoge thinks Orton deserves job over Tebow

Posted by Ryan Wilson

UPDATED (11:20 p.m. ET): Tebow has issued his reponse to Hoge's criticisms. Wrote Tebow on his Twitter account: "Hey Merril ...... 'ppreciate that."

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After an offseason that included new Broncos head coach John Fox announcing that the starting quarterback gig was a three-man race, and constant rumors that Kyle Orton would be traded as soon as the lockout was over, it should be something of a surprise that just a few days into training camp, Orton appears to be running away with the job.

Then again, this is the NFL, where obfuscation is as much apart of strategizing as watching film and formulating game plans. Maybe the Broncos coaching staff had designs on starting Tebow this season, and perhaps that could still happen. But based on a handful of practices, and a Wednesday morning Twitter diatribe by ESPN analyst and former NFL running back Merril Hoge, who spends much of his time watching game tape, Tebow isn't quite ready for the responsibility. Not yet, anyway.



This isn't the first time Hoge has been outspoken about a young quarterback. During a 2008 radio interview, he spoke frankly about then-Titans QB Vince Young.

"He's a baby," Hoge told Pittsburgh's WDVE at the time. "He's a soft baby. He's been a baby since they .... I stumbled across people who recruited him in college. They really tried to get him to go to Oklahoma. One of reasons they stopped their recruiting process was because he was such a baby . . . He was the most immature crybaby they ever met. He was soft; he wasn't tough."

A year later, he softened his stance, lauding Young for his improved play.

And while Hoge doesn't have the vitriol for Tebow that he previously expressed for Young, the two players have similar playing styles. As PFT's Michael David Smith points out, "When Tebow was a star at Florida, he was a great fit for the Gators’ spread offense, but he wasn’t asked to do the things an NFL quarterback does, and his throwing motion looked awkward. Hoge says that Tebow’s throwing motion hasn’t improved and his accuracy is a mess."

We've seen this movie before. And it explains a Wednesday report from ESPN's Adam Schefter that not only will the Broncos keep Orton this year, they plan to start him, too.

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Posted on: August 2, 2011 4:58 pm
Edited on: August 2, 2011 8:09 pm
 

Eagles sign Ronnie Brown to 1-year deal

Posted by Ryan Wilson

After Ahmad Bradshaw re-upped with the Giants Monday, Ronnie Brown was the last big-name running back available in free agency. Now that honor falls to either Jason Snelling or Ricky Williams because Brown is the latest member of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Via the Eagles' official Twitter feed: "BREAKING NEWS: #Eagles have agreed to terms with former Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown on a one-year deal."

Brown is the latest acquisition for a team that has been busily assembling the pieces for a Super Bowl run in 2011. The centerpiece of the frenetic free agency signing period is cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. The club also signed Jason Babin and Vince Young, and they shipped Kevin Kolb to Arizona for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

Brown was originally selected by the Dolphins with the second-overall pick in the 2005 draft, but serious knee injuries in 2007 and 2009 limited his effectiveness. And last season, despite starting 16 games, he rushed for just 734 yards on 200 carries for a paltry 3.7 yards per carry. In Philly, Brown will play behind LeSean McCoy, the third-year back who rushed for 1,080 yards in 2010 (5.2 ypc), and had another 592 yards receiving.

Added value: you could argue that Brown was the best quarterback in Miami the last few years, and maybe he can reprise that role in any Wildcat wrinkles the Eagles might employ. 

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Posted on: August 1, 2011 12:34 pm
 

Report: DeSean Jackson to end holdout

Posted by Ryan Wilson

DeSean Jackson hinted at a holdout last week but now, according to 6ABC in Philadelphia, the Eagles wide receiver will report to training camp at Lehigh University, either Monday or Tuesday.

The team's second-round pick in the 2008 draft has become one of the most dynamic players in the league during this three-year career, and Jackson wants a contract that reflects that. He's in the final year of his rookie deal, one that will pay him $565,000 in 2011. Still, the organization has no interest in talking to Jackson about a new deal until he reports to camp.

Eagles president Joe Banner, appearing on the 610 WIP Radio Morning Show Monday, didn't mince words.

“I think it would be best if DeSean came into camp and focused on being the best player he can be. Whether that’s short term or long term, that serves his goal and ours the best.”

This is the same stance the Titans are taking with running back Chris Johnson, although Johnson has said previously that he has no plans to report until he has a long-term deal.

The Eagles, meanwhile, have had a busy week accumulating talent. In addition to cornerbacks Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Philly added Jason Babin and Vince Young.

Getting Jackson back in the mix makes the NFC's early Super Bowl favorite even better.

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Posted on: August 1, 2011 10:14 am
 

Johnson wants new deal, Titans want him in camp

Posted by Ryan Wilson

With all the excitement about there finally being football, and the subsequent frenetic pace to free agency and the start of training camps, it's easy for some story lines to get lost in the mix.

Take the Titans, for example. They signed veteran quarterback Matt Hasselbeck to help rookie Jake Locker find his way into the starting lineup. The Titans also released Vince Young, the former franchise quarterback who is now playing on a one-year deal in Philadelphia.

Whoever ends up under center in Tennessee will rely heavily on the running game. This assumes that Chris Johnson, one of the two best backs in the NFL in recent years, isn't still holding out. Johnson hinted at that eventuality in June, when players were organizing workouts and the lockout was still in full swing.

NFL Network's Jason La Canfora wrote at the time that, "The idea of another 'band-aid' deal, after three highly productive seasons, isn't appealing to Johnson, and a contract in the range of the $5 million per season extension that Jamaal Charles signed with the Kansas City Chiefs last season isn't what he's thinking, either. Johnson has talked in the past about wanting to join the ranks of those garnering $30 million in guaranteed money, and if the free-agent cash begins flying around in a furious manner post-lockout, don't expect his desire to wane."

So it wasn't much of a surprise that Johnson wasn't there Sunday night when the Titans held their first practice open to the public. And it sounds like he won't be showing up without a new contract. “It won’t happen again,” Johnson said, according to the Tennessean's Jim Wyatt. “This is the last time without me having a long-term deal.”

One problem: the Titans won't negotiate as long as Johnson holds out.

“We told Chris and his agent we are willing to sit down and talk about a contract, but he needs to get into camp before we are willing to do that,’’ Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt said. “That is kind of our position. He needs to be here with the rest of the Titans, getting ready to play games.

“He is a good football player, we have a good relationship with Chris and his agent and we hope that would continue. (But) he is under contact. He should be here; everybody else is. It’s the right way to do it.”

Johnson's currently slated to make $800,000 in 2011. Given his production in recent seasons (including 2,006 rushing yards and 14 TDs in 2009), he's due a raise. The problem -- at least for Johnson -- is that it doesn't make salary-cap sense to pay him a deal that includes, say, $30 million in guarantees. Running backs are fungible; alternatives to Johnson are out there and much, much cheaper.

And for the Titans, that means more flexibility to address other roster needs. To put it another way, Johnson rushed for more than 3,300 yards and scored 25 TDs the last two seasons and the Titans went 8-8 and 6-10.

NFL Network's Solomon Wilcots sees it differently. “Let’s face it, Chris Johnson is the straw that stirs the drink for that football team. He has done so much for them over the past three seasons and they’re going to lean on him again. … Without [him], they’re not going to strike fear into teams. It would be hard for them to win it all. The Titans have to get that situation worked out as soon as possible and make him happy.”

We agree. The Titans need to work this out. What they shouldn't do, however, is pay Johnson a huge chunk of change (even if he's worth it -- and he is) because we've seen how this movie ends.

If you're still not convinced, how about this: the previous eight Super Bowl winners didn't have a high-priced, top-5 running back on the roster. What they did have, however, was a franchise quarterback. Teams can survive without one but not the other.

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Posted on: July 29, 2011 9:51 am
Edited on: July 29, 2011 10:13 am
 

Report: Vince Young takes 1-year deal with Eagles

Posted by Will Brinson

Vince Young was released by the Titans on Thursday, prompting much Twitter screaming from us. What? We were excited. (And we forgot to wash our hands after lunch so our Caps Lock key was stuck.)

So was Andy Reid apparently, because according to a report Friday from Albert Breer of the NFL Network, he didn't take long to reportedly sign Young to a one-year deal with Philly.

The likelihood of Young signing with the Eagles was first reported Thursday by CBSSports.com's own Clark Judge.

The Eagles have yet to confirm that they've signed Young, but according to our Eagles Rapid Reporter Kevin Noonan, starting quarterback Michael Vick has.

"I'm looking forward to having him in here and I'm looking forward to working with him," Vick said.

But there was some confusion as to whether or not Young would have to clear waivers, but the NFL cleared the situation up on Friday, pointing out that players with four or more years of service like Young and former Cowboys wideout Roy Williams did not need to clear waivers before negotiating with teams.

Young -- and anyone else -- still can't sign until 6:00 p.m. ET on Friday, but it now appears that he's free to negotiate a deal as the Eagles backup.

Not that it really would have mattered -- no one was going to claim Young and burn more than $4 million in roster bonus money for someone that really only appears to be coveted as a backup by one or two teams.

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Posted on: July 29, 2011 12:39 am
 

The biggest releases of the day

WeaverPosted by Josh Katzowitz

We had some surprising, and plenty of not so surprising, names who were released today, the first day teams could actually waive players.

Here are a few of the most-significant pink slips handed out today (we already told you about Vince Young and Tennessee here and the Baltimore guys who have been cut and the Dallas players who are gone).

-Former Vikings S Madieu Williams: He didn’t play well last year, and he’s teetering on being a bubble player in the league. Although Minnesota coach Leslie Frazier originally said he wanted to see what Williams would do in training camp, he ultimately decided not to find out. The fact Williams was supposed to make $5.4 million this year didn’t help his chances.

-Former Saints CB Randall Gay: After missing most of last season while dealing with the effects of a concussion, New Orleans released Gay. He would have cost New Orleans $5 million, and considering he was stuck behind Tracy Porter on the depth chart, this seemed like an easy call.

-Former Eagles FB Leonard Weaver: The former Pro Bowler was caught off guard by this move. This is what he wrote in a series of tweets (sics, of course, apply): “Hey there eagles nation, I'm sorry to say but I just found out I was released by the Eagles. … The kicker behind that is that the organization didn't call me and tell me. I had to find out by a reporter. … Now I have mixed feeling about that because I gave everything I had to the organization, and I would think that they would atleast call... And Let me know what was going on, but as I have learned over the years fans, business is business. …However I wish the best for the Philadelphia Eagles.”

-Former Chiefs G Brian Waters: He was a Kansas City mainstay for more than a decade, and the news of his release was met by sadness from some of the city’s media. Said Waters, who played 163 games in a Kansas City uniform: “The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City."

-Former Giants RB Tiki Barber: I know it’s hard to believe, but for some reason, New York severed ties with the former NBC broadcaster.

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