Tag:Carson Palmer
Posted on: July 26, 2011 1:15 pm
Edited on: July 26, 2011 2:39 pm
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Brown on Carson Palmer: 'He has retired'

Posted by Will Brinson



Two of the biggest offseason storylines this year -- the actual lockout notwithstanding -- were the respective sagas of Carson Palmer and Kevin Kolb, both quarterbacks under team control through 2011.

Kolb appears to be moving on via trade (though as Clark Judge noted, it's not "imminent") and it sure does look like Palmer's gone too -- Bengals owner Mike Brown reiterated on Tuesday that he is absolutely not going to bother trying to get anything of value of Palmer and will instead let him ride off into a youthful millionaire's sunset.

"I honesty like Carson Palmer. He was a splendid player for us," Brown said, via Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. "He is a good person. I wish him well and he has retired. That is his choice."
End of the Line for Palmer?

Yes. Yes it technically is Palmer's choice. And there's an argument to be made that Palmer is shirking his commitment. Mike Brown is making that argument.

"I'm not expecting him to be back. Carson signed a contract, he made a commitment," Brown continued. "He gave us his word. We relied on his word and his commitment. We expected him to perform here. If he is going to walk away from his commitment we aren’t going to reward him for doing it."

That is a very firm stance to take in this situation.

Unfortunately, it doesn't really qualify as "impressively strong" or "morally inflexible."

Instead, it's probably closer to "stupidly stubborn." If the Bengals traded Palmer -- and they absolutely could trade Palmer and get good value for him at this stage of things -- would the Bengals be harmed in any particular way?

No, no they would not, because they would acquire something in return for Palmer that would benefit the organization -- and the fans! -- over the long term.

Instead, they're going to let Palmer just walk away because he's sick of playing for the organization that treats its employees -- and its fans! -- in this way despite having just gotten through the longest work stoppage in history?

Yes, that's a much smarter move than trying to build for the future.

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Posted on: July 16, 2011 5:44 pm
Edited on: July 16, 2011 5:53 pm
 

Cincy OC Gruden 'assuming Dalton' is the starter

Posted by Will Brinson

Incumbent Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer is currently playing in celebrity golf tournaments, "laying low" and not talking to the media. In other words, he's not backing down from his threat to retire if he's not traded.

And as such, it looks like the Bengals really are moving on without him. Jay Gruden, the new Bengals offensive coordinator, became the second major staff member to all but proclaim Andy Dalton the starter.

"That's a good question," Gruden said when asked if they'd bring in other quarterbacks to compete, per Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson. "We're not going to force-feed anybody. We're assuming Dalton but if Dalton is not quite ready—he's only (23)—then we'll get somebody else ready."

Gruden pointed out that it's "not an easy position" to have to start a rookie (although, hey -- it's still better than rolling with Carson's brother, right Dhani Jones?), but remained confident in Dalton's ability to step in and succeed.

"Guys have [gone with a rookie] and been successful and guys have failed miserably," Gruden said. "It's not an easy position ... it's a unique position for a unique individual and I know we drafted the guy with the right frame of mind and hopefully his ability will prove his worth."

The new OC pointed out that "the way to get better is playing" instead of "sitting on the sidelines making notes on a clipboard."

This is a touch interesting, of course, because Palmer was the prototype for drafting a quarterback early, plopping him on the bench with a clipboard and letting him learn.

If Dalton can't manage to succeed along the complete opposite path, it'll be a painful and obvious comparison for the Bengals to swallow.

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Posted on: July 15, 2011 5:55 pm
Edited on: July 15, 2011 7:34 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'laying low,' no word on future

Posted by Ryan Wilson

We're about to have football for the first time in some four months. And once a new collective bargaining agreement is in place, things will move at a blistering pace, starting with free agency.

For quarterback Carson Palmer that means making a decision on his future even though he's still under contract with the Bengals. He threatened to retire earlier this offseason and hasn't shown signs of changing his mind. The problem: Cincy owner Mike Brown, known as much for his willfulness as his frugality, has no plans to trade Palmer. Which means that the two are at an impasse.

Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer spotted Palmer at the Edgewood Tahoe Golf Course driving range in advance of the American Century Championship celebrity event, and asked him about his current situation with the Bengals.

Palmer had no comment and told Reedy he is "laying low" until the lockout is resolved.

Part of us wonders if the four months away from the NFL grind (which is no doubt exacerbated by playing in Cincy where the circus is in town every day) has softened Palmer's stance on retirement. With the NFL season not yet officially underway there's no reason to announce now that he'll return to the Bengals, but he's just 31 years old. It's not like he's hobbled by injuries or old age, and presumably he's as competitive as he was when Cincinnati selected him first overall in the 2003 draft.

It's hard to imagine that any player in their prime would bench themselves for an entire season; plenty of them say it but very few actually go through with it.

For now, Palmer's in Tahoe participating in a celebrity golf tournament. And while we'll have to wait to see what happens in the coming days and weeks, this much is certain: Dhani Jones, under no circumstances, wants to see Carson's brother Jordan Palmer under center for the Bengals. Even though, you know, there's no guarantee Cincy will re-sign Jones who, according to one list (feel free to guess which one), is one of the ten best linebackers in the NFL.

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Posted on: July 6, 2011 4:44 pm
 

Hot Routes 7.6.11: MJD losing carries already?

Posted by Will Brinson



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  • Albert Breer of the NFL Network is sitting on the side of the street in New York (like, literally) waiting on lockout-related news. Here's his latest update.
  • SB Nation Atlanta reports that Sean Weatherspoon is going above and beyond what he needs to do during the lockout, getting together with Missouri teammates to workout. I have an unholy amount of love for 'Spoon and I'm hoping it doesn't manifest itself in an ill-advised DPOY pick this preseason.
Posted on: July 1, 2011 12:00 pm
Edited on: July 1, 2011 12:06 pm
 

Dhani Jones: Jordan Palmer 'not the answer' at QB



Posted by Ryan Wilson

It is with some irony that Bengals linebacker Dhani Jones would suggest teammate Jordan Palmer "is not the answer -- absolutely not" at quarterback. After all, it was just last week that Brian Urlacher, another Jones offseason target, pointed out Jones wasn't in the best position to be leveling criticism.

"I think we were drafted in the same class, right? Is he a 2000 guy? I haven't heard anything about him since then,” Urlacher said. “I saw him on a TV show with a bow tie on though. So I know him better for how the way he dresses than what he does on a football field. Guys are going to talk. I've definitely had a lot worse things said publicly from guys, so I can live with it."

 (This also gives us a reason to bust out our Urlacher vs. Jones graphic, which is always good for a couple laughs.)

Jones, appearing on the Rich Eisen Podcast, said he "would question the decision, absolutely," should Palmer win the starting job. Of course, Jones will be a free agent as soon as the lockout ends, so it may not be his problem to worry about (although he says he'd like to re-sign with Cincinnati).

It's been a busy few days for (soon-to-be-former) Bengals players. Chad Ochocinco went NASCAR joyriding, but not before telling a radio station that he might have to "whup [Marvin Lewis'] ass." He also has plans to wrestle alligators.

As for who will be under center when the season begins, second-round pick Andy Dalton has to be the early favorite. Lewis said last month that Dalton could be the Week 1 starter. All we've heard about the Palmers is that Carson sold his house and Jordan referred to him as a "former teammate."

We don't think Jones has anything to worry about. At least in terms of the Bengals' QB depth chart.



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Posted on: June 30, 2011 9:34 am
Edited on: June 30, 2011 9:49 am
 

Dolphins have very specific FA targets?

Posted by Will Brinson

The Miami Dolphins have -- already -- had an interesting offseason. The running back combo of Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown appears headed out the door (and the Fins still passed on Mark Ingram) and, as previously noted, questions about Chad Henne remain (and the Fins still passed on various quarterbacks).

Oh yes, and owner Stephen Ross publicly pursued Jim Harbaugh while Tony Sparano was still employed, failed to land the then-Stanford coach and then had to give Sparano a raise.

This friction across three key areas has created a need come free agency -- Omar Kelly of the Miami Sun-Sentinel writes that the Dolphins have a couple of very specific targets between now and whenever the season starts.

First, Kelly believes they'll add a veteran quarterback, but not a Chad Pennington-style backup-type. Kelly believes it will be someone who will be "savvy enough to push -- if not unseat -- [Henne]"; names he floats include Carson Palmer, Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, Vince Young, Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb and Rex Grossman.

That's a pretty, pretty wide spectrum of quarterbacks, but the point is salient -- the Dolphins will get another quarterback who expects to get a shot at starting.

They're also going to get a "tailback who has the ability to run stretch plays … that gets to the EDGES," Kelly writes. The biggest name associated with Miami thus far has been the Panthers' DeAngelo Williams; Carolina's repeatedly said it wants Williams back, but depending on how free agency shakes out, it seems less and less likely that re-signing him would be a prudent move.

There are other available names, though: Ahmad Bradshaw, Darren Sproles and Reggie Bush are names Kelly hears from "reliable sources."

Those guys make a lot of sense, especially if the Dolphins have interest in bringing back Ricky -- a combo of Sproles or Bush plus Williams would be a solid 1-2 punch out of the backfield.

All that's easier said than done, of course, but it's pretty clear what the Dolphins need, and there's good news for Fins fans, because it lines up nicely with what Miami wants.

And, provided free agency plays out as expected, the open market might be spot-on for those voids as well.

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Posted on: June 29, 2011 4:30 pm
Edited on: June 29, 2011 4:52 pm
 

Hot Routes 6.29.11: Carson's Cincy home: sold



Posted by Ryan Wilson
  • First the Bills get new uniforms and now Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly says that the team was wise to pass on a QB early in the April draft. Turns out, Kelly thinks incumbent Ryan Fitzpatrick is more than capable.
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Posted on: June 21, 2011 4:31 pm
Edited on: June 21, 2011 4:43 pm
 

Hot Routes 6.21.11: ATL to outscore everybody?



Posted by Ryan Wilson
  • Wideout Roddy White says the Falcons are "[G]oing to outscore everybody … Green Bay’s got, what, four or five guys out there who can make plays? We’re going to be Green Bay South.”
  • You know the lockout has dragged on for far too long when the NFL Network will air two CFL games a week. If this doesn't motivate NFL owners and players, then we're in deep trouble.
  • For three months, we've only heard about the downside of a lockout. For older players like Cowboys wide receiver Roy Williams, there's an upside, too -- namely, the length of the labor impasse likely means Williams won't get cut.
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