2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 17, 2011 6:27 am

Do you guy's think it's time to start looking for another QB in the draft ? Lftwich is bit older and though he has a strong arm that about it. Dixon is nnot going to make it as a franchise QB and looks bad this this year so far. I know it's early but I have no confidense. 

Walter football has SanDiego State QB Ryan Lindly projected in the 3rd round. At 6-4 215 he has the size NFL scouts look for and it's been said he has gotten bigger in his upper body. Just thought. 

rarebreed
SinceSep 23, 2006
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 17, 2011 9:41 am

I saw some of Marshall boy TE Lee Smith in some Patriots preseason action.  I can't tell you how he did because I was so disgusted I turned the channel.

Yell 
SteelPumpkin75
SinceJul 17, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 17, 2011 11:25 am

Demo, Bruce Irvin is a monster.  He has a checkered background.  He was a high school dropout, spent some time in jail.  Turned around his life, got his GED, attended community college and then JC.  He is playing DE at (I believe) 230 lbs.  He has been clocked in the low 4.4s forty, which is incredible for a man his size.  I think he translates well to a 3-4 outside LB.  Might have to add a few pounds. Bites is right.  He was a specialist last season, and will be on the field as a starter this year.  This kid has Lawrence Taylor type quickness - one of the fastest first steps I have seen.  It is true WVU has not put many players in the NFL recently, certainly not starting types.  I think that is going to change soon.  As for the defense we run, it is a 3-3-5 stack with 3 safeties.  It is not a whole lot different from the 3-4 the Steelers run.  Big nose tackle ala Hampton.  One of the safeties will assume the 4th linebacker role most of the time.  Thing is the offense doesn't know which safety it will be.  It is a speed based defense.  You would think it is weak against the run, but actually it has been much better against the run than against the pass.
SMURPH
SinceOct 20, 2006
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 20, 2011 6:47 pm

If you guys want a "monster" then tune into that station I will not mention on Sept. 3rd at 8 PM, Georgia vs. Boise State. Keep an eye on the Georgia OG, Cordy Glenn. He is 6-5, 348 and moves well.  Surprised

nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 22, 2011 8:32 pm

Taylor Mays was traded to the Bengals for a draft pick.  He is too slow to play safety in the NFL.
smcndfan
SinceFeb 18, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 22, 2011 9:32 pm

Taylor Mays wasn't straight line slow , but his hip flip sucked. USC masked this flaw by surrounding him with talent. As far as Boom or Bust, see Bruce Davis as an example of what we expected from him as a pro.
nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 22, 2011 11:09 pm

Da'Rel Scott ripped a 97 yard run for the Giants.

Mays sucks. Anthony Smith 2.0. 
steelers=sb
SinceOct 18, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 23, 2011 11:22 am

Mays sucks. Anthony Smith 2.0. 

I remember Smith's first pick, he starts that high step strut and goes out of bounds, then Dick LeBeau grabs the kid and gives him an earful. Something to the effect, act like you've done it before.
nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 24, 2011 7:31 pm

Too bad for Kentwan Balmer the Steelers no longer need depth at DE. The seattle Seahawks have just released him because he wasnt the pass rusher they needed him to be in their 4-3. I dont know much about this guy other than he is a former 1st round pick of the 49ers. I wonder if he would be a better fit in a 3-4 defense ? 
rarebreed
SinceSep 23, 2006
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 25, 2011 9:38 am

Kentwan Balmer is a classic DE for a 4-3,he does not have the strength or desire to tie up linemen as a 5 technique. And he is too big to play OLB, he would be worthless in zone.  Another guy who got paid millions of dollars and did not live up to the hype. As we follow the draft, we do not get to see what Colbert and Tomlin see and what the scouts report. Lots of us all fell in love with JaMarcus Russell and his size and arm, but the bottom line is his work ethic was that of a guy living in a Section 8 project house.

This is the same reason Jimmy Clausen dropped, and Mel Kiper has NO CLUE how to evaluate a college QB as a pro. Jimmy Limo's attitude sucked, as did Ryan Leaf's, another one best QB's of the draft misses from Smell Diaper.  When Pittsburgh picked Maurkice Pouncey none of us knew he was a down to earth kid who could memorize a play on a chalk board and read it back after it got erased. On Cam Heyward I was worried about the injury to his arm, but that is why the Steelers hire Doctors who specialize in sports injuries, and Psycholgists to talk to these kids. When you are going to shell out first round money to an unproven college kid, make sure his head is on straight and he is dedicated to football. What I like about Heyward is that he hustles, he still has a ton to learn, but he does not quit on a play and is always around the ball, that isn't coaching that is instinct. The tecnique, more strength,  and responsibility will come as John Mitchell teaches this young man.

Here is a pretty cool article on Carnell Lake's view of the CB position and what he is looking for and who is where in the progress as Ike Taylor heals.


http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011
/08/22/steelers-db-coach-carnell-la
ke-breaks-down-the-cb-position/



nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 27, 2011 1:17 pm

The scouting report on Rahim Moore was poor tackling. Despite that I still liked him as a prospect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A3-LfFzHxM

The color anylist, you have to aim lower or go for the ball.   What in the flock was he watching??? Moore leveled the guy with his shoulder in his chest. Good God, the National pansy League is really irritating me. As a safety you object is to break up the pass as a last line of defense. Rahim Moore did his job, period. All the bed-wetters and go cry me a river.



nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 28, 2011 11:36 am

If we go corner next year, I'm very intrigued by Xavier Rhodes out of Florida State.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhbzKFxIWig

I barely see him on any draft boards, but by season's end he might very well be a first-round prospect.

About Moore, I can't lament too much since this unwelcome change is out of my and of course every other fan's control. That was a great hit IMO though. 
demolisher43
SinceJun 18, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 30, 2011 11:11 am

Rob Rang's 10 udrafted players who could make a roster. Pay close attention to number 2 (burghball), 6 (Steelers), and 9 (yours truly).

1. Doug Baldwin, WR, Seahawks (Stanford): Had impressed brass with his reliable hands, route-running out of the slot and that was before he returned a kickoff 105 yards for a TD against Denver.
2. Nick Bellore, ILB, Jets (Central Michigan): Instinctive and a terrific open field tackler, Bellore made several standout plays Monday against the Giants.
3. Ryan Donahue, P, Lions (Iowa): Seems to have a legitimate chance of unseating veteran Nick Harris for the starting punting (and holder) positions for the Lions.
4. Kevin Kowalski, C, Cowboys (Toledo): I'm told Kowalski's solid play was one of the factors that led to the team's surprising release of former Pro Bowler Andre Gurode.
5. Josh Portis, QB, Seahawks (California of PA): Has easily won the Seahawks No. 3 position and some argue he holds more upside than current No. 2 quarterback Charlie Whitehurst.
6. Weslye Saunders, TE, Steelers (South Carolina): Big bodied blocker with the hands to be a threat in short yardage situations.
7. Ricardo Silva, S, Lions (Hampton): Appeared to be a loooong-shot heading into the preseason, but has proven to be a playmaker (two interceptions, fumble recovery) and is practicing ahead of veterans Aaron Francisco and Michael Johnson, among others. 
8. Willie Smith, OT, Redskins (East Carolina): The same athleticism that Brad and I found so intriguing before continues to be obvious. Despite claims from some that he was "only a left tackle," Smith appears to have settled in nicely at right tackle.
9. Cedric Thornton, DT, Eagles (Southern Arkansas): Andy Reid's willingness to shuffle the deck at defensive tackle makes listing Thornton a gamble, but he's shown good athleticism at 6-3, 310 pounds.
10. Will Yeatman, TE, Patriots (Maryland): Won't push Gronkowski or Hernandez for fantasy consideration, but is a big body (6-6, 270) who has stood out as a blocker.

another note is that if Yeatman makes the Patriots do they release the promising TE out of Marshall, Lee Smith? Other than laughing hysterically at the Lions whooping the tar out of Tammy Brady, I have not followed their TE depth past Hernandez and Gronkowski.  I hope Pittsburgh keeps Saunders over SUCKMORE.  If someone gets hurt, we can always sign SUCKMORE as a vet backup. I would not want to risk relaasing Saunders to get him on the PS, somebody watched the last two games, this kid is making strides. And SUCKMORE, well he is sucking more.



nybites
SinceSep 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 31, 2011 10:46 am

You know, there's a thread on the Off Topic board that is well over 30,000 posts.  Who's running this site?  Herr Goodell?

Undecided 
SteelPumpkin75
SinceJul 17, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 31, 2011 10:55 am

Hey, bites.  Sorry man, but I'm already using the AV I was going to send you.  I couldn't sit on it anymore.

All you guys: have an awesome Labor Day weekend

Cool 
SteelPumpkin75
SinceJul 17, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

August 31, 2011 4:58 pm

Hey folks,

I'll try and get something up re the college games this weekend..  There is actually a couple of very good games this weekend... one in particular:

Boise St vs Georgia - to be played in Atlanta..  Couple of Olineman to watch in this one...

Oregon vs LSU 8:00pm Saturday

oh yeah and Pump...

Marshall vs WVu 3:30 on Sunday

enjoy,

bb
burghball
SinceJan 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

September 1, 2011 7:10 am

College Ball tonight (flip on the commercials...of the Steelers vs Carolina game...)

Thursday, Sept 1, 2011
UNLV at Wisconsin 8:00 ESPN

a couple of players to watch:

Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin
Ricky Wagner OT Wisconsin

Aason Henry FS Wisconsin

enjoy,

bb
burghball
SinceJan 4, 2007
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

September 1, 2011 7:06 pm

so it begins again. ill be sure to catch it, one question, pst, est or cst? i assume cst?

2k 
Ravens2k
SinceDec 25, 2008
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2009 Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper Sucks Thread

September 2, 2011 7:02 am

A kid I talked about last year RB Bernard Pearce from Temple had a big night - He got hurt last year in their game vs Penn State - looking forward to see this kid healthy and watching him run the rest of this season. Not for the Steelers - just to watch and see where he ends up...

Wisconsin put a hurting on UNLV last night - did not watch...

Tonight Friday, September 2nd

TCU vs Baylor

Check out Tank Cardner ILB for TCU...   Not sure he fits the Steelers either but fun to watch this kid play - seems he is always where the ball is...

enjoy,

bb
burghball
SinceJan 4, 2007