Thank goodness.  That'll make all our lives a little more tolerable (until these new unis are revealed and then....)

I gotta admit . . . this little twirp is growing on me.  Maybe he's an okay dude after all. 

You are a dude, aren't you? 

Yeah Bluez. Seems like he's gone. I'm hearing Norv is bringing his brother to run the defense, a 3-4 scheme. Dunno if we have the right players for it though

I gotta admit . . . this little twirp is growing on me.  Maybe he's an okay dude after all.  

You are a dude, aren't you? 


Yes.  However, I live in my parents' basement often dresssed in nothing but plastic wrap, banging away on the Internet, and admiring my collection of chrome mini-helmets. 

Yes.  However, I live in my parents' basement often dresssed in nothing but plastic wrap, banging away on the Internet, and admiring my collection of chrome mini-helmets.

It's sooooooooo hard when it's sooooooo easy

Muhahahahaha!

So that 'Bama CB is coming out.  Already ranked #1 DB. 

DRAFT him! 

Nice hires, welcome to the NEW Browns, glad it got done and look forward to all that is good.

After nearly 50 years of marriage, a couple was lying in bed one evening, when the wife felt her husband, begin to massage her in ways he hadn't in quite some t...ime. It almost tickled as his fingers started at her neck, and then began moving down past the small of her back. He then caressed her shoulders and neck, slowly worked his hand down, stopping just over her stomach. He then proceeded to place his hand on her left inner arm, working down her side, passing gently over her buttock and down her leg to her calf. Then, he proceeded up her thigh, stopping just at the uppermost portion of her leg. He continued in the same manner on her right side, then suddenly stopped, rolled over and became silent.
As she had become quite aroused by this caressing, she asked in a loving voice, ‘Honey that was wonderful. Why did you stop?' To which he responded: 'I found the remote

l  m  a  o   

Ha, good one bluez!

Saturday predictions......


Denver 26, Baltimore 20



49ers  33,  Packers  27



Sunday....


Falcons 30, Seahawks 20



Pats  41,  Texans  30               

Good picks, TD...though I hope you're wrong about the Pack.


Did you happen to watch Around the Horn Friday?  I don't usually watch...in fact I swore off ESPN talking-head shows a couple years ago.  I tuned back just for the hell of it and because I was curious was to what they'd say about the Browns' hire.  Wow....know what the opposite of love is?  Apathy, right?  Well that was their "take".  Not ONE of them even bothered to give little factoids about the guy.  They just rip'd the Browns for not landing Chip Kelly.  Two of them made fun of the guy's name.  I mean really?  I know it's not real jerounalism but damn.  I was really pissed!  Soooo disrespectful....and un-professional.  Browns don't deserve much attention (actually they do since the media justify their ridiculous coverage of the Cowboys due to their "large base") but at least DO YOUR JOB! 

I mean, why just rip Cleveland because of CK?  He turned down the beloved Northeastern Eagles too.  Now Brian Kelly has told them "no" also.  Will they tear the Eagles apart about that?  Probably not.  At least, not as badly as they did the Browns.

It's BS!

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Here we go again...

I bet I wasn't the only one thinking that when the Browns introduced Rob Chudzinski as their new head coach. This is not a knock on Chudzinski. The more research I do on the former Carolina offensive coordinator, the more I like the hire.

But it's still ... Here we go again.

Two years ago, it was Pat Shurmur at a press conference like this. Four years ago, it was Eric Mangini. Chudzinski is the sixth coach since the team returned in 1999, and three have been wiped out in two years.

Here we go again...

That's why so many fans listen to the press conference for the new coach and think, "This will never work."

Chudzinski has the advantage not only of growing up a frustrated Browns fan, but being here twice as an assistant. But when he used the word "process," I winced. It was a flashback to Chris Palmer, the coach in 1999. Others have mentioned it.

Browns fans are weary of plans and "the process." They want to see progress in one place -- the victory column.

Here we go again...

At one point during the coaching search, I received several emails from fans who suddenly wanted Shurmur and his staff back because they feared the new guys would be even worse.

I much preferred Shurmur to Chip Kelly, the Oregon coach with zero pro experience in any capacity. But I have come to terms with Chudzinski, and not because he used to pretend to be Ozzie Newsome and Brian Sipe. Rather, he has had some degree of success with quarterbacks as different as Cam Newton and Derek Anderson.

The most impressive part of Chudzinski's two years as Carolina's offensive coordinator was last season with how he helped revive Newton, who was the star of his own huge pity party early in the year.

In the first eight games of 2012, Newton had six touchdown passes to eight interceptions, a 77.7 rating. The Panthers were 2-6. In the last eight games, Newton had 13 TDs, four interceptions. The Panthers were 5-3 as Newton had a 94.2 rating. That's real progress and an indication of solid coaching.

I believe Chudzinski will make Brandon Weeden a better quarterback, just as I believe Shurmur was correct insisting Weeden will be much better in 2013 for the simple reason that he's no longer an NFL rookie.

Here we go again...

That can change with a short winning streak. Remember the optimism when Mangini ended 2009 with four wins to finish at 5-11? Or when the Browns beat New Orleans and New England in back-to-back weeks in 2010? Or when they won three in a row this season?Fans are waiting for a reason to believe.

I look at the talent assembled by former general manager Tom Heckert (I still wish the Browns had kept him), and I'm optimistic. I just hope they get it right when it comes to the general manager.

The draft is coming and "Here we go again..." pops into my mind when I think of all the bad drafts. I'm trying not to think that way. I'm vowing to give everyone a fresh start. That's because two years from now, I don't want to sit through another press conference with another new coach.

Chudzinski has the advantage not only of growing up a frustrated Browns fan, but being here twice as an assistant. But when he used the word "process," I winced. It was a flashback to Chris Palmer, the coach in 1999. Others have mentioned it.


Yes, it's a %&%&% process!!  It takes more than 2 years!

GEEEEEHZ.   So ridiculous, unrealistic.


Man I hope this ownership doesn't listen to the ignoramouses in the media (not to mention the stands/couches).  

So I thought I would share with you a positive review of Chud's hire from the media, heck even espn.  (btw not affiliated in any way)  I listen to a daily podcast and couldn't wait to here their opinion and both analysts had good things to say. 

First Ross Tucker the host who didn't comment much on exactly what he liked about Chud, said how for the past 7 years coaches that worked with and against Chud have had high praise for his work. 

The other analyst who actually worked for the Browns as a scout (hired by Butch Davis) was on staff when Chud arrived and first of all spoke of how well respected he was by the other coaches many of them older than he was at the time. 

Second he pointed out this (will try to quote close as I remember) , "for the first time in what seems like forever they have something there in Cleveland.  They have a line, a power running game, downfield threats and a QB who has the arm to cut through the elements.  Guys like McCoy, Garcia never made sense.  To win in Cleveland you need a power running game and push the ball downfield and that's what he (Chud) does well."  He went on to say that Chud will probably have some learning curve to deal with, calling timeouts etc. but that he has the intelligence to handle it and has no doubt that Chud will adapt well. 

Both of them expressed doubts on the ability of Chip Kelly to translate his game to the NFL (Tucker was actually playing and on Spurrier's team (the last college prodigy to flame out in the NFL) and didn't have good things to say.)  And besides that didn't think his style was a good fit in Cleveland. 

Anyways take it how you will but I have found these guys pretty objective and insightful this year and was happy to hear the positive take.  I find in general the analysts who ripped Cleveland this year had a pretty shallow knowledge and viewed the Browns as an easy target due to the futiliy of the past few years.  LIke the guys who looked at our schedule in June and said "I can't see one win for the Browns", I don't listen to them anymore, cause in general they don't know what they are talking about.  Hey SS you don't work in the media do you?

Hello TopDawg, Bluezhound32, Crextin, and Lymanacocnut, great to see that your all still chating here.   <br /><br />I am pleased that the Browns selected Chadzinski as their new head coach.   I have admired his work<br />and he is like one of us since he grew up a Browns fan.   I wasn't sold on Chip Kelly being a good fit.<br />I never cared for John Gruden and I always thought he was over rated and cocky.  Andy Reid should have <br />probably taken a year off from coaching to get everything back into perspective after the death of his son and <br />his colapse in Philly.   The only other coach that really intersted me a lot was Trestman.  I have always been a big Trestman fan<br />and I look for him to make a difference in Chicago.   <br />I really like Jimmy Haslam and I hope I get to run into him sometime in Knoxville, Tennessee since I spend a lot <br />of time working there and my job sometimes allows me to meet a few special people.   I hope Haslam has the<br />right plan.   I know he has a great passion for the U.T. Vols, and you should see some of that with him being the Browns new owner.<br /><br /><br />I hate it that Heckert is gone.  I also hate it that the Browns will probably be switching back to a 3-4 defense once they hire a new <br />Def. Corrdinator.  I liked our defensive coaches, and the direction the defense was going as a whole with the 4-3, and believed we<br />were just a couple of players away from being a real top 5 defense.   But, unfortunately, HERE WE GO AGAIN on both sides<br />of the ball.   I understand what Bluez was saying because we will in fact be starting another NEW PROCESS once again in Cleveland.<br /><br /><br />Going back to a 3-4 defense will take time and no doubt lots of changes in personnel, which will mean we will need 2 or 3 years<br />to once again get settled personnel wise before we can expect results.   On the offensive side of the ball we might already have a lot<br />of the pieces in place and a new plan might be all we need to start being a higher scoring team.   It will probably just be our <br />luck that we start averaging around 30 points a game, and our defense unfortunately start allowing more.    BUt, at least it might<br />be more exciting to watch, and I might actually be able to draft a few more Browns Players for my 3 Fantasy Teams. LOL.<br /><br /><br />The only person I won't miss is Holgrem.  He was a hell of a coach years ago in Green Bay, but he hasn't done much since <br />except get fat lazy, and lived off his even bigger reputation.  I thought it was a good call to show him the door before the <br />season ever ended.  I was glad to see that the Browns also never even entertained the thought of hiring Andy Reid either.<br /><br /><br />I'm hoping the new owner, new General Manager, New President, New Coach, New Offensive Co-otd. (I have never cared for <br />Norv Turner as a head coach, but maybe he's more suited as a Off. Co-ord) and yes, the new Def. Cord. whoever he might be. will finally be able to turn the Browns back into the proud Cleveland Browns team I loved and admired growing up in Ohio in the 60's and early 70's.  Win, lose, <br />or die, I will still be, as I always have been, A CLEVELAND BROWNS FAN.   <br /><br /><br />With that said, it's past my bedtime.  It's good to be back.   <br />                                   

Eager to spark turnaround, Browns coach Rob Chudzinski back where his love of football, NFL career started

By Nate Ulrich 
Beacon Journal sports writer
Published: January 12, 2013 - 11:06 PM

Gary and Ruth Chudzinski simultaneously used cordless phones Thursday night at their Fremont home, so they could listen to an important call together.

Their son, Rob, was on the other end of the line.

“He said to both of us, ‘Do you know who this is?’ ”  Gary Chudzinski said Saturday in a phone interview with the Beacon Journal.  “We said, ‘Of course.’  He said, ‘Do you know you’re talking to the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns?’  That was a shocker to us, and we were really surprised and happy for him.”

They weren’t the only ones.

Rob Chudzinski, a 44-year-old Toledo native, comes from a clan of rabid Browns fans.  Once Chudzinski’s parents found out owner Jimmy Haslam and CEO Joe Banner had hired their oldest of three children and only son as the team’s 14th full-time head coach and sixth since 1999 during a dinner Thursday in Charlotte, N.C., word spread quickly throughout the family.

“My dad called me,” Dave Dixon, Chudzinski’s cousin, said Saturday in a phone interview.  “It wasn’t on the Internet yet.  It was surreal.  I had to work the next day, and I couldn’t sleep.  The excitement Rob showed is exactly what we’re all feeling.  I’ve been a Browns fan a long time.  We were celebrating, high-fiving, calling all the cousins.”