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December 30, 2012 9:03 pm

I'm in on the Playoff Challenge. Will your diagnosis of my issue was spot on. My ESPN logon is eddied 1955.

Yellowfuzzy
SinceNov 1, 2009
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December 31, 2012 9:29 am

Sorry gents.  My computer crashed and I spent a few days getting it back up and running.  What a royal pain in the keister that mess is.

Is it too late to join the playoff challenge?  If not, somebody give me the info so I can get signed in, please.

DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006
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December 31, 2012 11:52 am

Foot, you'd have until Friday, since the playoffs start on Saturday. We'll keep ESPN as a backup.

Oh, and I owe you an avatar....
wilwhite
SinceSep 30, 2009
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December 31, 2012 12:01 pm

Thanks Lefty and Wil.
DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006
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December 31, 2012 12:49 pm

Oh, and I owe you an avatar....
Me too! I'll just wait til next season!
Sam
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December 31, 2012 1:47 pm

Final QB Rankings Scores:

Ram rose a little the last two weeks - and wilwhite dropped hard as Romo, Eli and Brees rose and Brady and Palmer fell.

Actual
1:Brees 2:Rodgers 3:Brady 4:Peyton 5:Ryan 6:Cam 7:RGIII 8:Romo 9:Wilson 10:Luck 11:Stafford 12:Dalton 13:Freeman 14:Eli 15:Flacco 16:Roeth 17:Bradford 18:Schaub 19:Palmer 20:Fitz 21:Rivers 22:Ponder 23:Cutler 24:Tannehill 25:Weeden 26:Kaepernick 27:Vick

WINNER - RamTuff 56.03 (up from 48.35)
1:Rodgers 2:Brady 3:Brees 4:Cam 5:Stafford 6:Vick 7:Eli 8:Romo 9:Ryan 10:Peyton 11:Rivers 12:Roeth

Jamey E. 52.62 (up from 40.59)
1:Rodgers 2:Brees 3:Brady 4:Cam 5:Stafford 6:Vick 7:Eli 8:Romo 9:Rivers 10:Peyton 11:Ryan 12:Roeth

wilwhite 49.84 
(down from 74.13)
1:Brady 2:Rodgers 3:Stafford 4:Cam 5:Brees 6:Ryan 7:Vick 8:Peyton 9:Roeth 10:Rivers 11:Romo 12:Palmer

Dave R. 46.27 
(up from 35.46)
1:Rodgers 2:Brady 3:Brees 4:Stafford 5:Cam 6:Romo 7:Vick 8:Eli 9:Rivers 10:Peyton 11:Ryan 12:Roeth

ADP 35.81
 (up from 35.38)
1:Rodgers 2:Brady 3:Brees 4:Cam 5:Stafford 6:Vick 7:Eli 8:Rivers 9:Romo 10:Ryan 11:Peyton 12:RGIII

Monkey 29.06 
(down from 40.05)
1:Brady 2:Brees 3:Rodgers 4:Romo 5:Stafford 6:Rivers 7:Eli 8:Cam 9:Vick 10:Ryan 11:Palmer 12:Roeth

Sam 26.06 (up from 13.19)
1:Rodgers 2:Brady 3:Brees 4:Stafford 5:Eli 6:Ryan 7:Roeth 8:Cam 9:Vick 10:Cutler 11:Romo 12:Rivers

Joe -29.81 (down from -25.87)
1:Rodgers 2:Brady 3:Brees 4:Stafford 5:Vick 6:Rivers 7:Eli 8:Schaub 9:Ryan 10:Romo 11:Roeth 12:Peyton

Foot -93.83 (down from -93.38)
1:Cam 2:Peyton 3:Flacco 4:Roeth 5:Rodgers 6:Vick 7:Brady 8:Freeman 9:Brees 10:Romo 11:Dalton 12:Flynn

Congratulations to Ram - I thought I had this one in the bag.
wilwhite
SinceSep 30, 2009
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December 31, 2012 5:00 pm

The Foot Predict-o-Meter - Final Report

Credit to Foot for getting one right. Spiller did indeed finish as the #7 RB, just as he predicted. Spiller's ADP was as the #36 RB, so Foot can crow a litttle about this - or rather he could if he hadn't botched so many other picks.

The final rundown, from sanest to craziest:

Meh (crazy rating of 2)

CJ2K will be the #1 RB
He was the 4th RB in ADP, so this is hardly a stretch. Dead wrong, though, coming in at 13th and 131 FF points out of the #1 spot. A terrible prediction, but close enough to mainstream thinking that we shouldn't really pillory you for it.


Off the Beaten Path (crazy rating of 3)

Cam Newton will be the #1 QB
His ADP was as the #5 QB, and very few people had him #1, so this was a little unusual. Cam came on in the second half and ended up #6, 71 points out, and worse than ADP. Putting him #1 was a bad prediction, and would have put your team in a big hole early if you followed it.

Peyton Manning will be a Top-2 QB
Wrong again - but not by much, as Peyton ended up at #4, 36 FF points out of the #2 spot. ADP had him as the #9 QB, so while Foot was off, this wasn't bad advice at all, although it wasn't a revolutionary prediction.


Huh.. Interesting (crazy rating of 4)

Shonn Greene will be a top-11 RB
A modest goal, but still wrong. Greene came in as the #15 RB, 29 FF points away from the top 11. With an ADP as the 24th RB, though, this is another case of being wrong but the advice not being too horrible - although also not too unusual.


Out There (crazy rating of 5)

Charles will be a Top-2 RB
With the injury and Hillis in the wings, people were low on Charles and his ADP was down at #14 among RBs. Foot had him crazy high at #2. He ended up right in the middle at #8, but a big 59 FF points out of the #2 spot. Foot was right in rating him above ADP, but so far off in how high he rated him that this is a bad call.


Pretty Crazy (crazy rating of 6)

Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 WR
Not that far off (he was the #5 WR, 23pts out), but still wrong. With an ADP as the 16th WR, this again isn't bad advice, but putting him #1 made it both a crazier prediction and a less accurate one.


Time to Get Your Head Examined (crazy rating of 7)
 
Miles Austin will be a Top-2 WR
Wrong Cowboy. Austin's ADP was #27 among WRs, and that's pretty much where he ended up (#26, and a whopping 88 FF points out of the top two). Horrible prediction.

Spiller will be a Top-7 RB
Credit where it's due: this is Foot's genius call, definitely crazy and absolutely correct. Spiller did in fact end up #7, while his ADP was a mile away at #36 among RBs. Props.

Turbin will be a Top-12 RB
To compensate, Foot was mind-numbingly wrong on this one. Turbin was unrosterable, finishing 57th among RBs and 122 FF points away from the #12 spot. His ADP as the 54th RB was on the money, and Foot was totally off.


Seriously, It's Time to Get Your Head Examined (crazy rating of 8)

Russell Wilson will be a Top-4 QB
Wilson poured it on late and climbed up to #9, but still 58 FF points out of the top 4. Worse, half his points came after Week 11 (and 30% after Week 14), when they were too late to do much good. Still, he was the 24th QB in ADP, so Foot was on to something, but as usual he aimed too high and the result was bad advice.

Lamar Miller will be a Top-10 RB
His ADP was nonexistent... and so was he, mustering a paltry 35 FF points despite being healthy all year, to end up as the 72nd RB, 164 FF points out of the top 10.


Bat-Guano Crazy (crazy rating of 9)

Flacco will be a top-3 QB
Instead, Flacco ended up where he always does, in the middle of the pack (#15 QB), with every single stat number perfectly in line with the average over his previous three years (as everyone else predicted). A terrible, team-crushing prediction.



Summing Up

By itself, the Spiller call is amazing. And the Peyton Manning and Demaryius Thomas calls would have been great if he'd been a little more modest. Taken together, though, the terrible calls balance out the better ones and result in an unimpressive set of predictions (and an unreliable predictor). He gets points for creativity, though.
 

wilwhite
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December 31, 2012 8:57 pm

Will Great job with the stats but I have to say had you drafted all these guys like I sugested and drafted them where their average adp was targeted you would have made out like a bandit with every pick except for one. Chris Johnson. If you look at where the players I targeted would have been drafted and where they ended up my suggestions would have been fabulous for building a team. Let's look first at the negative and granted it was a big negaitive cause it was a first round selection that missed.

Chris Johnson projected to be  a first round price tag/ finished 13th. Not a worthy first round pick by any means but not as bad as some like a Mc Coy.

Maybe you could add Cam Newton here too cause he was a late 2nd rounder and played more like a 3rd rounder but he still was decent and was phenominol expecially at play off time.

Now here is why I say my advice was actually not bad advice but great advice in fact if you drafted these guys where they where drafted you would have made out great or at the very least broke even on every pick. 

Peyton Manning - 8th round price tag. Adp had him ranked 9th he was the 11th Qb drafted in our league and finished as the fourth best QB. Major bargain. 

Shone Green ranked as the 24 adp RB finished in at 15th. Another good pick with very good value.

Jamaal Charles ranked 14th adp RB came in 8th. Great value

Demarious Thomas ranked 16th best wr came in 5th. Tremendous value here.

Miles Austin ranked 27the came in 26th. Didnt blow any one's skirt up but still had value even if it was ever so slim.

CJ Spiller. ranked 36th came in 7th. Insane value.

Turbin ranked 54 finished 57 but the good thing is he was a waiver pick up so he didnt hurt you. Same with Lamar even though he didnt pan out you probably didnt waste a high or nmid range pick on him so he didnt hurt you either.

Russell Wilson. I think this pick was one of my best considering. Ranked 24th finished 9th. Tied Peyton Manning TD record for a rookie. I'd say i was on to something too Will. Cant wait to see what he does in the play offs.

And finally Flacco - Even though Flacco was a major disappointment to The Foot he too didnt cost you as he finished right where he was projected. The only players that did worse than thier adp where Johnson and Newton and Newton was slightly.

So aside from my crazy predictions which i agree were crazy if you just drafted all these guys in there normall draft positions you would have done pretty good if not great with all but two of these picks.

I know all this is bragging adn i greatly appologize and don't worry I wont say anything further after this  but i just felt like i kinda had to point out some other things and hopefully guys can see it from my point-of-view that these picks and advice where actually pretty tight.

 
TheFoot
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January 1, 2013 8:56 am

Foot,

I agree with you that a lot of these picks were very good.  I think what gets you in trouble is your language when you are making predictions.  If you went for a little less shock value and were a little more vague, your picks would have been stunningly accurate. 

Instead of saying that Demarious Thomas will be the number 1 WR, list him as a mid round WR with a high liklihood of posting elite value.  Predicting anybody (even Calvin Johnson) to be number 1 is dangerous.  You are pretty much setting yourself up to fail because anything short of that is disappointment.  D. Thomas had a spectacular season, but he was not number 1.  

As for the QB rankings, there are 3 players in this group who will give you elite production year in and year out no matter what.  They are the focal points of dynamic offenses, they are remarkably consistent, they are brilliant football minds and they have too many offensive weapons around them to fail.  The "they" I refer to are Brady, Rogers and Brees.  They need to be in your top 5 next year if you want it to be taken seriously.  Barring injury, these 3 guys are about the only sure things in our game of uncertainty.  Manning is right there on ability, but a little behind due to injury risk. 

If you think that RG3 or Cam will sneak ahead of a couple of these guys, that isn't too crazy.  Just wait until after you list Brees, Brady and Rogers before you start taking shots on Kaepernick and Russel Wilson.  Kaep and Russ will both be trendy picks next year, but neither player gets enough usage in run heavy attacks for their value's to approach the fantasy elite.   


Heed my advice and Wil's update next year will be entitled "Foot the Genius" instead of "crazy foot".         
Tlance
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January 1, 2013 12:22 pm

Spot on advice -  Tiance. I do need to re-word my predictions and tone them down. Thanks for the words. Happy New Year to everyone hope this one is a great one. 
TheFoot
SinceSep 11, 2009
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January 2, 2013 8:42 am

I'm logged in for the Playoff Challenge.  Thanks again for setting this up Wil.
DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006
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January 3, 2013 11:02 am

With Duff we are nine (along with me, Scape, Lefty, Joe, Treff, Sam, Tlance and Fuzzy). And presumably Hawk to make ten, if he ever gets in. Anybody else?
wilwhite
SinceSep 30, 2009
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January 5, 2013 7:55 am

So far it looks like I'm the only one with their Playoff Challenge lineup in.  Just a reminder that everyone needs to have their lineup set by kickoff today.
DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006
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January 5, 2013 10:51 am

Mine's been set for a while now. I think once the games start we can see each other's rosters.
wilwhite
SinceSep 30, 2009
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January 5, 2013 11:09 am

I just tweaked my lineup. I decided to change one of my QBs. 40 cents under the cap for week one of playoffs. Look forward to seeing everyone's choices.
Yellowfuzzy
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January 5, 2013 11:21 am

Hey guys how do I log in. Unfortubatly my water heater went down and I had to get it fix what a nightmare but I had no time to do our site. Sorry guys next time I wont let us down. Will Ill change my avitar tonight been so busy. How do i get into the espn playoffs?
TheFoot
SinceSep 11, 2009