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yeah i noticed that too..

Sorry Ram, now i agree with you, the Rams have a shoddy WR corp, even when only looking at potential. 

February 12, 2013 1:01 pm

Ram- as to the Ram's recievers..I think they are a nice young bunch..some need some seasoning, but they've got a great talent pool to build on.  I think it would be nice if they had more of an intermediate type of guy.  I love Givens and Young's ability to blow the top off, and Amendola is great at moving the chains.  Perhaps Kendricks can be that intermediate guy??  Personally, I think they'd be better of snagging Dwayne Bowe than Harvin.  Given the attitude problems they're sure to have with Young, I don't think they need Harvins as well.  Even though comnparatively Harvin's are non existant when up agianst Young's, but still, you get the idea.  
 
But if I were to bet on it, I'd say the ram's alreayd have the recievers they're going to open the year with, minus any potential draftees. 
I don't think they'll sign a Bowe or Wallace, or especailly deal for a Harvin, Fisher can build an offense, McGuyver style, and it'll be a good one, but he'll need those draft picks for the defense, IMHO 

IDK what group of WR's everyone's watching in STL... But they are horrendous.  Amendola is the best Wr on the team but like i said he is at best a good slot reciever; and his downfall is he can never stay healthy. I have a feeling Danny will get a nice contract from New England anyway so he will be gone. Chris Givens has potential but to be a nice deep threat but never a possesion reciever. ( watched every Rams game this year can't tell you how many drops Givens had) "Titus Young is a headcase and there's a chance he might not even be on the roster opening day.  "

Called it out 3 days ago.. I had a feeling Titus would not make to opening day

Titus Young.........what a dumb-ass.................

BTW, here is Foot's next "Super Sleeper"..............

Oakland Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Olson said it will be important to see what QB [Terrelle Pryor] can do during offseason workouts and minicamps to get a better sense of what the team has at the quarterback position. The Raiders want to know whether Pryor can do for them what San Francisco 49ers QB Colin Kaepernick did this past season. 'If you have a guy that can stay there and play 65 plays a game and do those things and also be able to throw the ball from point A to point B accurately, if he possesses those skills as well, then you certainly have something,' Olson said. 'So that's what we'll have to find out with [Terrelle Pryor]. We know what kind of an athlete he is. We need to find out what kind of decision maker he is, and we need to find out if he's a guy that can also sit in the pocket and deliver the ball from point A to point B accurately and on time and making the right decisions.'

Analysis: The read-option craze appears to be spreading across the Bay. Pryor has the potential to match Kapernick as a runner, but his passing skills need more polish. In any case, it sounds like Pryor will be given every opportunity to win Oakland's starting gig.

I watch a lot of OSU football and this guy was so-so as a passer......he will have to make huge improvements to even sniff the starting gig......but he does have some pretty cool tats.
Sam

Sam get some new material man. I still can't believe not one person even suggested my boy who I called a deepest of deep sleepers. If he does what I think he does this year man will it be hard for me to fit my big fat head through a door way!

Not to worry, Foot, your head will fit through doorways for years to come.

Why do I feel like in a couple of years Titus Young will be asking me for change outside a Rite-Aid?

<blockquote class="QuoteMessage">I still can't believe not one person even suggested my boy who I called a deepest of deep sleepers.</blockquote>

We didn't guess because this guy is so far down on our preliminary fantasy rankings...  and I don't see him bumping up to a realistic fantasy ranking.  C'mon, Foot. The 2nd best RB on the Patriots was Woodhead and he had minimal-to-zero fantasy relevance. If there was an <strong>amoeba</strong> category for fantasy players - he'd be on it.<br /><br />I can gaurantee that you will be the only drafting him come August. I'm sure he'll be available on the waiver wire all season long too.<br />

Take 2...

I still can't believe not one person even suggested my boy who I called a deepest of deep sleepers.

We didn't guess because this guy is so far down on our preliminary fantasy rankings...  and I don't see him bumping up to a realistic fantasy ranking.  C'mon, Foot. The 2nd best RB on the Patriots was Woodhead and he had minimal-to-zero fantasy relevance. If there was an amoeba category for fantasy players - he'd be on it.

I can gaurantee that you will be the only drafting him come August. I'm sure he'll be available on the waiver wire all season long too.

I second everything Joe said.

4.15-4.25 speed doesn't equate to jack sqwat at the RB position.  Never rushed for more than 800 yards, never scored more than seven TD's (and only nine total as a JR &SR), rarely involved in the passing game..hell he's barely even a kick returner.  Then, when you add on wjere he's at, the fact he's behind Ridley, Vareen, ans Woodhead...there's absolutely NO reason for him to be on anyone's radar as anything more than someone to watch IF both Ridley and Vareen go down.  And to ask anyone to think otherwise reeks of  narcissism.

Narcissism? Well if tht is the case I appologize. I just think woodhead will be released and Welker too. Add to that the way that Bellicheck changes RBS (I man look at how many PATS RBs emerged this year). The is a deep sleeper guy with a chance here that with that kind of speed and an oppurtunity this guy could be somebody. The way that Bellicheck put this kid on the injured reserved when many thought he wasn't badly hurt tells me he is getting him up to speed (no pun intended) with the play book. I could see this guy in the slot position out in open space. I personally have never seen nor heard of a guy running a 4.15 40. the best ever at the combine was 4.24 from Chris Johnson and Deon Sanders (Sanders was hear say) and becuase of that 4.24 speed they where game changers. No one has or has had the kind of speed this guy possess in the NFL so I say he is a huge "deep" sleeper with a ton of upside and potentail. Im not saying he will be a top 10 back but with his homerun potentail I wouldn't be surprised if he get's into the top 20 if he get the chance.

Maybe I am a little like Al Davis i do love a player that can do something no other player can do. I hope you guys are right about being able to get him in the last round all though I won't mind over paying a little and drafting him earlier than that.

Only time will tell, but I'm excited about this guy. I have another deep sleeper this time a WR! ????

Foot, here's the deal...saying something like, "hey, this Jeff Demps kid is intriguing, his speed could potentially be a game changer  if given a chance.  He's a name to keep an eye on in Patriot's camp this offseason, and possibly a guy to snag if Ridley/Vareen falter or get hurt"  is something that someone who claims to be serious about building a credible fantasy site would say.  If Demps finds a niche, or better, you xan still say "I told ya so".  If not, no harm no foul, you never said he was a great RB, just that he was fast and interesting.
What you said, as your very first act after swearing you were going to take MWHS to another level, is ridiculous jibber jabber that has a miniscule chance at best of ever happening, and makes you sound like a fool when he doesn't end up anywhere but the scout team.
Taking chances and being bold about identifying potential sleepers is a good thing, one that everyone looks for when seeking out fantasy insight.  But what you do, is something entirely different, and it chips away at any credibility the site has, or could have.

It's statements like these that will keep MWHS from being taken seriously, and the main reason as to why I want no part of it.
I know it sounds like I'm being a spiteful dick here, but I'm honestly trying to help out here.  I'd like to see MWHS take off, becuase I like everyone else involved with it, but it'll never happen if people find these types of things on the front page.  Call it what you will, I'll call it constructive criticism.

Treff i appreciate the time it took to write that but I think i made it pretty clear that I'm calling this guy a DEEP SLEEPER as in DEEEEEP sleeper. I don't think I told anyone to draft him in the first 3 rounds when I reread my article and i don't think anyone can mistake this for anything other than a very late rounder deep sleeper who I happen to really like. 

On another note and Treff if you want to talk about spesific things I said in the article that have you feeing this way I'd be more than happy to.. on that other note I am doing a complete analysisof Chris Givens and would like the Ram's fans on here to chime in. Is this guy an elite psoibility and how fast really is this guy. I read he has 4.37 40 speed anyone ever heard faster? What do you Ram's fans out there think of this guy.Sam and Ram and Treff I'm looking at you and anyone else with a voice on this player. Thanks in advance. 

no, you didn't say the first three rounds...but advising someone to draft the guy in the last round or inferring that he may not be there in the last round, is still ridiculous, barring the aforementioned rash of injuries to Ridley, Vareen, and/or Woodhead, maybe even Boldin as well.

As for Givens, my opinion on him is that his ceiling is probably a WR2, I'm not sure he's got it in him to be a true #1, neither fantasy wise, or in reality. The diet Mike Wallace perhaps, with the possibility of becoming the same as Mike Wallace.

Treff, telling people to draft this guy in the last round is not ridiculous. Telling people to draft a guard or a center with the last rounf pick is ridiculous. I mean we are talking about a last round pick here right? Telling people to draft a guy who is undoubtly the fastest guy in the entire NFL yes the fastest guy in the whole league does not seem like a ridiculous notion to me. But I will leave it at that cause i am only thanks to your good graces.

Thanks for the input on Givens too. I greatly value your opinion as I do each and everyone's on here. But, I think he and Bradford are going to turn a few heads around this year. I can see you don't think he will be elite anytime soon but I have a gut feling that he plays way better than projected and I will be certian I draft him at some point next year.

Anyone else like or dislike this guy going forward? 

Foot, here's the deal...saying something like, "hey, this Jeff Demps kid is intriguing, his speed could potentially be a game changer  if given a chance.  He's a name to keep an eye on in Patriot's camp this offseason, and possibly a guy to snag if Ridley/Vareen falter or get hurt"  is something that someone who claims to be serious about building a credible fantasy site would say.  If Demps finds a niche, or better, you xan still say "I told ya so".  If not, no harm no foul, you never said he was a great RB, just that he was fast and interesting

I hope you don't take this wrong Foot, but I agree with this statement 100%. Funny thing is I was gonna make a post just like this last night but my puter was acting funky. Reread the front of MWHS at what you wrote and try to look at it like somebody who was just cruising around looking for FF info...............kinda funny but comes on like this guy will be in the top 5 at the end of the season.

As far as Givens is concerned I think this kid could be pretty damn good and could give you low end WR#1 numbers except for these 2 problems. Like RT said, he drops a lot of balls (maybe it is something he can get over). Problem #2: I'm doing this on memory so don't shoot me but as a Rams fan, take a look at Bradford's receivers over his career...........look at their targets. Last year when Danny A was out Givens was getting a good amount of looks then all of a sudden (last couple of games) not so much: Gibson, Pettis and Kendrick seemed to be getting more. IMO until Bradford gets his true #1 (and yes Givens might become that) I say fantasy wise you stay away from Ram receivers. Would I take a late round flier on him: maybe depending on bench size (I did pick him off the wire in a couple leagues though). Anyway, just my take. BTW, just to back a little of what I said, there was a stretch right after we got Gibson from the Eagles where he was getting anywhere from 11-16 targets a game and then poof! He was gone.
Sam

Bravo, Treff! Bravo.

Foot, I think you should have Treff edit your posts. I like your bold off-the-wall, out-of-the-box predictions, but Treff is right - you need to put a spin on the language that grabs your target audience. Treff could be your publists. or public relations editor, or the fantasy equivilant of Alex "Hitch" Hitchens.

oh eff me.   I think my local Walmart is hiring greeters..that sounds much more to my liking

Sounds like a perfect match Joe....Forget Walmart Treff your hired! But unfortunatly I can't pay you nowhere near what the lucrative local Walmart can. 

Seems a suggestion was put forth last year for a review committee for articles prior to posting - comprised by those who have $$ invested and maybe one or two 'independents'.  As a non $$ investor yet interested party in making it a success,  I still think that approach has merit if MWHS is to ever become a truly legit site.  Just my humble opinion. ......

Bravo, Treff! Bravo.

Foot, I think you should have Treff edit your posts. I like your bold off-the-wall, out-of-the-box predictions, but Treff is right - you need to put a spin on the language that grabs your target audience. Treff could be your publists. or public relations editor, or the fantasy equivilant of Alex "Hitch" Hitchens.