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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 4:44 pm

  He's in there with McSorley and Bertuzzi now


terrible comparison, atleast McSorley and Bert fight and dont cower. and that hit on Brashear is such a joke. everyone made usch a big deal out of it. he was trying to get him to go and Brashear(as he always did when he thought he might lose a fight) douched it. he gave him a little tap on the helmet - was it the best idea - no but McSorley was a stand up player and to compare him to Cooke in any way is laughable. my take on Bertuzzi is different because Ive always liked him so much that he could probably shoot someone and Id look the other way. what he did to Moore was disgraceful but again he doesnt do something cheap and run the other way. Cooke is a grade A pu&%y - period
cutter9394
SinceFeb 10, 2009
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 5:12 pm

terrible comparison,
fair enough.

I was only talking about the name recognition.   
hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 5:27 pm

Maybe use Chris Simon next time.
KILLERPGH
SinceJan 22, 2008
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 5:42 pm

Simon is good.  

I just don't think his name stuck with casual fans over years as well as Bertuzzi or McSorley, maybe it did.    It may have, the guy was a scumbag.
Violence in the game segments almost always reference the Bertuzzi incident and McSorley's stickwork on Brashear seems to have been the biggest catalyst to rid the game of the stickwork.    Anyway, that's why I thought Cooke fit in with them since he ended a career and hurried in a mess of new rules for dangerous hits and supplemental discipline.    I don't see many writers reference Simon as often, but I'm not sure why they don't.
hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 6:02 pm

Wasn't the head shot rule scheduled to be brought up at the GM's meeting due to the Richards/Booth hit? And the Cooke/Savard hit was only a day or 2 before the meeting, but it was already a topic set to be fixed at those meetings. Cooke can't take all the credit for the GM's/BoG fixing a rule that other leagues have had for years.
KILLERPGH
SinceJan 22, 2008
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 6:15 pm

Wasn't the head shot rule scheduled to be brought up at the GM's meeting due to the Richards/Booth hit?
I'm very confident related rule changes were on the agenda.  It was in the making for a couple years and it was inevitable.   I believe some of Cooke's earlier work was the topic of discussion as well. 
And the Cooke/Savard hit was only a day or 2 before the meeting, but it was already a topic set to be fixed at those meetings. Cooke can't take all the credit for the GM's/BoG fixing a rule that other leagues have had for years.
I never said he gets all the credit or even most, but after he changed the face of a franchise with the dirty hit I'm very confident he helped (more than any other individual) to make the league move much faster than they would have wanted to otherwise.    Too many owners were losing money because of dirty hits and concussion issues in the NFL were starting to bubble over.    I'll keep it short for now, but I strongly believe the Cooke hit caused them to take more drastic action faster than they would have otherwise.    We know how the league looked like handling all of those things going into the next season, it was an absolute mess.   The rules were sloppy and poorly thought out, the refs were entering their own stoppage and not involved enough, and the PA could not handle the pace the league was moving.    Had the Cooke hit not occured, I think the rule changes would have been a little more subtle and easier to manage for all parties involved.   

I wasn't at the meetings, so I acknowledge I may be completely mistaken. 

hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 6:26 pm

Maybe use Chris Simon next time.



yeah because he always ran from a fight too. maybe Bob Errey or another great Pen(and even better person off the ice) Matt Barnaby would be better next time
cutter9394
SinceFeb 10, 2009
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 7:00 pm

I forgot Simon's was such a nice guy. 8 suspension for 65 games in a time were suspension were harder to come by. True fighter. He never played baseball with a guy's head or stomped on anybody. But then again you probably considered it just a tap. Most people who are pro fighting usually hate the stuff that gives anti fighting people ammo. You seem to be pro anarchy more than pro fighting. Which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I disagree with a bunch of poster about how each feels the NHL should be. If we all agreed all the time it would be pretty boring around here.
KILLERPGH
SinceJan 22, 2008
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 7:06 pm

I disagree with opinions, but stated facts are the truth.  :)
rediiis
SinceFeb 18, 2007
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 7:47 pm

facts are facts... the truth is subjective. 
firehalo
SinceNov 20, 2007
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 8:08 pm

Pop Quiz

who is mostly likely to get into a fight tomorrow:

A)  Prust
B)  Boll
C)  Rinaldo
D)  Neil
firehalo
SinceNov 20, 2007
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 8:22 pm

Datsyuk is injured?  well, Dat Sucks.
firehalo
SinceNov 20, 2007
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 8:26 pm

peeps tail this dude on twitter @S1NGHV1LLE
Georgehill
SinceDec 21, 2012
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 8:58 pm

why?
FortheLulz
SinceSep 25, 2008
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 10:53 pm

who's peeps?
hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 10:54 pm

Pop Quiz

who is mostly likely to get into a fight tomorrow:

A)  Prust
B)  Boll
C)  Rinaldo
D)  Neil
My answer:

Yes
hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 15, 2013 11:04 pm

I think some coaches will be in trouble next week.

McLellan is in deep doo-doo right now.   They are a mess.
Laviolette may be the fall-guy since Holmgren claims he's not making any big moves. 

hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 16, 2013 12:10 am

Bob, please stay in the Clubhouse, us ditch denizens don't need your space flu.
rediiis
SinceFeb 18, 2007
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The Ditch

February 16, 2013 12:50 am

Yeo, Mclellan, Sacco, and I have a favorite little one Torts!
rediiis
SinceFeb 18, 2007
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The Ditch

February 16, 2013 1:37 am

Who had Jonathan Toews and Jumbo Joe Thornton in a fight tonight?  Not much of a fisticuffs, but suprising enough to make it entertaining.
gmalis1
SinceMay 26, 2008