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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 2:13 am

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
Alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
Indiana @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon
cuse1788
SinceDec 22, 2009
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 10:05 am

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
Alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati- I know New Mexico's ranked but this has the makings of a trap game for Cincinnati, with Big East play beginning later in the week
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis- I'm picking my Lobos but I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Cincinnati to have a letdown in St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
Indiana @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon
Lobofan2003
SinceMar 4, 2008
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 11:27 am

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville      HOMER PICK!!!!
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
IU @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon
catsfan74
SinceDec 9, 2009
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 1:09 pm

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville      
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
IU @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon
Khepera93
SinceJan 6, 2011
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 1:15 pm

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
Alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville
Air Force @ Florida - Sorry, Lobo, but this isn't going to be close. 
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
Indiana @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon
 
jagalltheway
SinceOct 24, 2007
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 3:11 pm

GAMES through the Holidays: Miami (FLA) @ UCF Stanford @ NC State Xavier @ Cincinnati Ill St @ Dayton S. Dakota St @ Belmont Alabama @ Texas Tech Tulsa @ Creighton Northern Iowa @ UNLV Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount Stanford @ Northwestern BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31 New Mexico @Cincinnati Baylor @Gonzaga Detroit @ Temple Missouri @ UCLA UNLV @ UNC Va Tech @ BYU Tulsa @ Fla St Valpairiso @ Murray St Kentucky @ Louisville Air Force @ Florida Army @ Texas A&M Xavier@ Tennessee George Mason @ USF Washington @ UConn Ill St @ Indiana St New Mexico @ St. Louis Gonzaga @ Ok St Cincy @ Pitt Mich St @ Minn Indiana @ Iowa Nevada @ Oregon
TheSwamp15
SinceSep 7, 2008
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 3:12 pm

No Illinois Missouri on DEC 22???


See my extra credit game below..  Cool

  
Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
Alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
Indiana @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon 


Extra credit:    Missouri vs. Illinois 
SportsJunkie76
SinceFeb 25, 2008
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 3:22 pm

Man, SportsJunkie.  Mia Culpa.  My bad...

Not catching the Mizzou Illini game is an issue.  Not that you need extra credit, but this game will be a good one.  Sorry I missed it.  I'll take the Illini- but this is one of the highlight games coming up. 
unolobo
SinceMar 1, 2009
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 3:39 pm

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
Alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
CincyPitt
Mich StMinn
Indiana @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon
Illinois @ Missouri
CardSmack29
SinceSep 28, 2012
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 3:52 pm

"Man, SportsJunkie.  Mia Culpa.  My bad...

Not catching the Mizzou Illini game is an issue.  Not that you need extra credit, but this game will be a good one.  Sorry I missed it.  I'll take the Illini- but this is one of the highlight games coming up.  "

Uh, how about #9 Kansas @ #7 Ohio State? Or Temple vs. Syracuse? Or Texas @ Michigan State? Or Florida vs. Kansas State? These are just the games this Saturday. Instead you throw out Stanford-Northwestern and Ole Miss-Loyola Marymount? Come on, man!
twocoach
SinceJan 17, 2008
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 3:55 pm

Air Force @ Florida-  Sorry, Lobo, but this isn't going to be close.

Okay.  I obviously agree that it would a near miracle for the Falcons to beat the Gators at home, but this Air Force team is pretty good (agree not nearly as good on the road).  The Gators are better, but I should let you know what's coming to town.  While the Gators look like the sky is the limit this season and at home, this Air Force is a good and experienced team (Their starters are all seniors) and each year they are getting better.  They nearly beat a very talented Wichita St but didn't play well at Colorado.  I've watched this group at Air Force for awhile and got a chance to watch them this season in their opener (vs. Army).  Michael Lyons is a phenomenal player.  They will get easy baskets.  They always do.  They pride themselves in shooting only good shots, and they're disciplined.  They nearly always are in the top 20 in terms of shooting percentage.  Also, watch this kid named Fletcher.  He can play.

While Air Force doesn't have answers for a Rosario who is shooting well or certainly a Boynton who is hitting shots or Wilbekin doing his thing, expect Air Force to be a feisty foe.  Until I see Young and Yeguete playing to their potential, an experienced team like Air Force can and will score inside with easy backdoor cuts- they could have some trouble with their center (forget his name) and Fitzgerald- a mobile big forward. 

Do I think Air Force will win?  I don't, but this game will be a real test for Florida. 
unolobo
SinceMar 1, 2009
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 4:11 pm

HAHA.  i love starting $h!t.  no worries.  it's a 50-50 game.


Go Illinois! 
SportsJunkie76
SinceFeb 25, 2008
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 4:11 pm

Uh, how about #9 Kansas @ #7 Ohio State?  Or Temple vs Syracuse? Or Texas @ Michigan State?  Or Florida vs. Kansas State?  These are just the games this Saturday.  Intead you throw out Stanford-Northwestern and Ole Miss-Loyola Marymount?  Come on, man!

TWOCOACH, my friend!!!  My long time nemesis shows his visage.  I admit, if I had it do all over again, I certainly would have selected the Missouri Illini game and absolutely the Kansas @ Ohio State games.  Probably the Temple Syracuse game too... (I'm wondering why the Orange faithful didn't bash me yet for that one- as a matter of fact...)  That was pure oversight...I do enjoy finding the biggest games and best matchups and no doubt KU vs TOSU is way up there in both categories.  Don't know how I missed it.  I knew about the game, just didn't include it.  I maintain that both Stanford vs Northwestern and Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount should be good games. 

So while I don't necessarily pick every Top 25 matchup, I guess I have no attempt at clever comebacks as per usual when you challenge me.  I just missed them when I created the list.  The objective is to pick a variety of games, locations, and conferences focusing on those teams that are doing well so when March comes around, this group will know more than just what the media covers.  As annoying as you can be, I appreciate the objective analysis and criticism. 

In any case, I'll take Kansas, Syracuse, and Illinois.
unolobo
SinceMar 1, 2009
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 6:48 pm

1. The game isn't at home, it's part of the Orange Bowl Classic in Tampa. So it's far from a neutral environment, but it's not a home game either.

2. Air Force is solid. Don't get me wrong. But "solid" teams don't usually beat top ten teams, regardless of how experienced they are. Middle Tennessee wasn't able to keep the game close in the second half, and Middle Tennessee is a better team than Air Force imo.

3. Your comment about Yeguete, and our interior defense in general, is strange. How is he Yeguete not playing up to his potential? He was a lightly-recruited 6'7" 'tweener with a terribly limited skill set. His skill set is still limited, although he's developed a nice hook shot and his free throw shooting has improved dramatically. He's improved every season that he's been at Florida, and if anything, he's an overachiever. Young, when you take into acount his mixture of strength, sise, and athleticism, is an underachiever. Yeguete isn't. 

Our interior defense has been perfectly fine this season. Yeguete is a perfectly good defender, and Young has improved in his help defense as well. Murphy is decent in both position and help defense, although he isn't necessarily great in either. You can't be the third most efficient defensive team in the country (KenPom stats) if you struggle with interior screens. 

 
jagalltheway
SinceOct 24, 2007
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 6:49 pm

size, not "sise." lol
jagalltheway
SinceOct 24, 2007
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 8:11 pm

1. The game isn't at home, it's part of the Orange Bowl Classic in Tampa. So it's far from a neutral environment, but it's not a home game either.
Fair 'nuff, but Tampa is 2 time zones away from Colorado Springs and it's in Florida.  While not a home court advantage, Gators have an advantage.  

2. Air Force is solid. Don't get me wrong. But "solid" teams don't usually beat top ten teams, regardless of how experienced they are. Middle Tennessee wasn't able to keep the game close in the second half, and Middle Tennessee is a better team than Air Force imo.

Given that Middle Tennessee delivered Ole Miss' only loss, I got your point, but in that particular game Florida didn't see the real Middle Tennesse St team.  (They couldn't buy a bucket.)  I thought they MTS some very good shots, but just missed them.  I do agree it is fair to say that Florida's quickness bothered MTS.  I still believe Air Force will cause Florida problems because of their discipline- especially in the half-court.  If they make it a half court game and take Florida out of the transitions, it will be close.

3. Your comment about Yeguete, and our interior defense in general, is strange. How is he Yeguete not playing up to his potential? He was a lightly-recruited 6'7" 'tweener with a terribly limited skill set. His skill set is still limited, although he's developed a nice hook shot and his free throw shooting has improved dramatically. He's improved every season that he's been at Florida, and if anything, he's an overachiever. Young, when you take into acount his mixture of strength, sise, and athleticism, is an underachiever. Yeguete isn't.
Also good points, but neither can hit a freethrow- I guess in the case of Yeguete, when you start hitting 1/3 of the total, there's only one way to go....up!  Agree he is improving, but both were beaten badly at Arizona on the boards.   If it weren't for Murphy, they would have been in trouble.  Don't believe Yeguete will have another 10+ against Air Force like he did with Middle Tennessee St.   

Our interior defense has been perfectly fine this season. Yeguete is a perfectly good defender, and Young has improved in his help defense as well. Murphy is decent in both position and help defense, although he isn't necessarily great in either. You can't be the third most efficient defensive team in the country (KenPom stats) if you struggle with interior screens. 

Also good points.  Murphy is a consistent performer on offense and on the offensive boards.  On defense...not so much.  I like Yeguete's quickness and competitiveness.  Hey, I'm being a bit tough on the Gators because I thought they should have won at Arizona and just lost their intensity and gave the game away- on defense in the second half.  Let's see what happens.  I think we agree that Florida will chalk up another win, but Air Force is an unusual competitor.
unolobo
SinceMar 1, 2009
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 8:41 pm

Given that Middle Tennessee delivered Ole Miss' only loss, I got your point, but in that particular game Florida didn't see the real Middle Tennesse St team.  (They couldn't buy a bucket.)  I thought they MTS some very good shots, but just missed them.  I do agree it is fair to say that Florida's quickness bothered MTS.  I still believe Air Force will cause Florida problems because of their discipline- especially in the half-court.  If they make it a half court game and take Florida out of the transitions, it will be close.

That's not what I saw at all in that game. It was a very physical game and both teams struggled to get good shots off. Florida was longer and more athletic than Middle Tennessee and was very good at getting to the free throw line (although not so great at making them).

Also good points, but neither can hit a freethrow- I guess in the case of Yeguete, when you start hitting 1/3 of the total, there's only one way to go....up!  Agree he is improving, but both were beaten badly at Arizona on the boards.   If it weren't for Murphy, they would have been in trouble.  Don't believe Yeguete will have another 10+ against Air Force like he did with Middle Tennessee St.   

He's still not a good free throw shooter, but he's leagues better than he was last year lol. He had five rebounds against Arizona, more than anyone on Arizona's team, so he wasn't beat badly on the boards at all. Rebounding wasn't our problem at all against Arizona. You'd definitely like to see better rebounding production from Young, though. But when you out-rebound a big team like Arizona by six, I'm not going to complain too much about that. Yeguete has been our most consistent rebounder by far, considering he hasn't had a game all season with less than five rebounds. Murphy isn't even averaging five rebounds. Murph has had a few solid rebounding games lately, but that's one area where he definitely needs to get better.

Also good points.  Murphy is a consistent performer on offense and on the offensive boards.  On defense...not so much.  I like Yeguete's quickness and competitiveness.  Hey, I'm being a bit tough on the Gators because I thought they should have won at Arizona and just lost their intensity and gave the game away- on defense in the second half.  Let's see what happens.  I think we agree that Florida will chalk up another win, but Air Force is an unusual competitor.

I don't think it was necessarily a lack of intensity that lost us the game... Rather it was the inability to get the ball inbounds and up the court that lost us the game. Wilbekin has a broken finger that might affect his ability to handle the ball, and that magnified that problem at Arizona. Boynton doesn't have the handle to be a PG. Rosario doesn't have the mentality. Ogbueze isn't even close to being ready. We need to get Wilbekin healthy, as he's our best PG by far. 

But I don't think losing to Arizona by a point on the road is any indication that Air Force will be able to play us close in Tampa. That just seems... Unlikely. Air Force is solid, but not great. I don't think it will be close at all, unless we come out extremely flat. 
 

jagalltheway
SinceOct 24, 2007
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December 17, 2012 8:59 pm

Right jag.  I really do like Florida this season.  They've got all kinds of weapons.  Wilbekin is one of my favorite players in the country.

I was simply making the point that Air Force will be a team who will likely push Florida.  You'll see that they will get easy baskets- mostly because they know each other so well and are disciplined.  I don't think it will look like Florida State or Marquette.  Who knows?   
unolobo
SinceMar 1, 2009
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Pick'em wise guy

December 17, 2012 9:44 pm

GAMES through the Holidays:

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
Alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
Indiana @ Iowa (My Upset Pick)
Nevada @ Oregon
jasonwells1982
SinceJan 3, 2007
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Pick'em wise guy

December 18, 2012 2:44 pm

Miami (FLA) @ UCF
Stanford @ NC State
Xavier @ Cincinnati
Ill St @ Dayton
S. Dakota St @ Belmont
alabama @ Texas Tech
Tulsa @ Creighton
Northern Iowa @ UNLV
Ole Miss @ Loyola Marymount
Stanford @ Northwestern
BYU @ Baylor

Thurs Dec. 27-31
New Mexico @ Cincinnati
Baylor @ Gonzaga
Detroit @ Temple
Missouri @ UCLA
UNLV @ UNC
Va Tech @ BYU
Tulsa @ Fla St
Valpairiso @ Murray St
Kentucky @ Louisville      
Air Force @ Florida
Army @ Texas A&M
Xavier@ Tennessee
George Mason @ USF
Washington @ UConn
Ill St @ Indiana St
New Mexico @ St. Louis
Gonzaga @ Ok St
Cincy @ Pitt
Mich St @ Minn
IU @ Iowa
Nevada @ Oregon
TranquilChaos
SinceJan 11, 2011