Palmer's awful mobility is a serious liability to this team and will never improve and his high turnover rate doesn't help either.

How many more games do the Raiders have to lose with Carson Palmer at QB until you realize that he sucks and should be cut ?

Carson Palmer's record is 7 wins - 15 Losses as Oakland's starter and his career record is 53 wins - 66 Losses.

The Raiders have now loss 6 games in a row with Palmer at QB.

NFL - Palmer Extends Int Streak to 9 Games

Palmer has been picked off in each of his last nine games, which is the longest active streak in the NFL.

Carson 6 Hilton 6 Palmer 6

You have to admit he is a great deceiver. He has you all fooled thinking he is a good QB when really he just racks up those interceptions and losses.

So what does that say about the skills of your boy Pryor? He can't even get himself ACTIVATED and suited up for game day. He must not be ready, or even that good. Explain that 89. Oh wait you can't. But I bet you'll post a bunch of college YouTube videos like you've done 100 times before. Nice job.

Ned its a lost cause trying to explain anything to him or trying to have a conversation, he has one thought and spews it hundreds of thousands of times, because its the only thought he has.

Why is Darren McFadden sucking here this year? I guess thats Carson s fault and not this retarded system, but wait thats just an excuse. Why does Rolando McClain suck? Oh its because we dont play a 34, but yet thats not an excuse. Why cant DHB run a rte or catch consistantly in year 4? Again not his fault, huh? Why did Bruce Campbell not get playing time here and why cant he get playing time in Carolina? I guess his arms where registered as lethal weapons for being too long.

Since 2007 Carson Palmer has steadily been getting worse. Here are his rankings in the NFL for QB Rating since then.

2007 - 14
2008 - only played 4 games
2009 - 16
2010 - 19
2011 - 19
2012 - 20

I dont get why we are hating on Palmer. He has been our best QB since Gannon, hands down. Now yes we paid to much up front for him, not his fault. However with our Defense, Our zbs, our wrs with the droppsies, how can you expect more. Add into this mix that the team no longer cares and what is he to do? I get it you want him to lead, I say lead what? When it coems to this team there is nothing for him to lead.

Carson Palmer is a career loser. He's one dimensional and makes too many mistakes. The Raiders will not go far with him.

By the way believe me I get the fact that he is not the best QB in the league or even in the top 10, however alot of that has to do with what he is working with. Before you chase him out of town realistically how are you replacing him with. Why not attack the broken problems? Why attack the one guy who is at least showing a faint sign of life?

My list of guys doing great
Seabass

Here is my view of our gus who are successful this year

Palmer
Meyers


Here is my opinions of guys doing ok
Reece
DHB
Huff
Moore
Streater
Burris
Wheeler

Here is my list of failures
everyone else

So as you can plainly see there is alot of blame to go around, and Palmer probably is not the guy to point at. Unless you just need a person to blame then hey why not the QB

You need to put the scotch down if you think Palmer is playing well. The dude just doesn't make enough plays to win games and he can't because he has terrible athletic ability and it severely limits him.

It's a shame that Raider fans have had to put up with all of the bad QBs that have came and went after Gannon because now they think QBs like Palmer are good. SMH

Terrelle Pryor should be the starting QB for the Raiders and they should try to trade for Tyrod Taylor to be his back-up for like a 4th round pick or perhaps for Carson Palmer straight up. The Raiders are in desperate need for a mobile QB.

RG3, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Cam Newton, Josh Freeman are all mobile QBs and even Andrew Luck has decent mobility.

Carson Palmer is a career loser. He's one dimensional and makes too many mistakes. The Raiders will not go far with him.

Rich Gannon was a career loser before he became a Raider as well... I am in no way saying CP3 is Rich Gannon, I am only pointing that out to nullify your lame point.

You want to say CP3 sucks, fine , I won't argue that, but you need context to be taken seriously.

CP3 does suck compared to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers..

But compare him to Brady Quin, Matt Cassel, John Skelton, Chad Henne, Nick Foles, Blaine Gabbert and Mark Sanchez and he looks like the freakin MVP...... Context..

Even more relevant to our discussion compare him to Jason Campbell, JaMarcus Russell, Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, Kyle Boller, Matt Leinart, Andrew Walter, and Josh McCown and tell me that he sucks.... Which guy on that list do you want to start over CP3 this sunday? Im sure you would say Jason Campbell and obviously you didnt see him play when Jay Cutler was hurt earlier this season..

The bottomline is simple: You will not find one Raider fan anywhere who would state that Carson Palmer is worth what the team gave up for him. That is a simple fact, so why do you keep bringing it up as if some people think that?

Do you think you are the only one who gets frustrated and or pissed when he throws a bone headed INT? News flash you arent.

We simply look at REALITY 89.... And the reality of the situation is, this team sucks, and there are a whole lot of reasons why, and Carson Palmer is not even near the top of that list of reasons... 

So basically my point is this; you make yourself look like a blithering idiot by making thread after thread basically insinuating that Carson palmer is the reason why we are losing every game.. Does he contribute? hellz yeah, but like everyone keeps pointing out, her is playing far better than most of the turds we have....

And I for one think most of these turds are alot better than this, but we have the head turds calling the shots running diarhea systems making the players look even worse...

Tyrod Taylor? Terrelle Pryor? You telling him to put down the scotch? You need to put down the crack pipe... I hope TP works out for us, but I am doubtfull, I doubted he was an NFL caliber QB long before we ever drafted him.... Tyrod Taylor too...

Yeah it is nice to have a mobile QB, no doubt, but before we focus on mobility we need to make sure the QB can actually be a throwing QB, not a running one...  

If you guys want to continue to lose with Palmer then fine. Act like a ho get treated like one. I tried to warn you.

LMAO... Yeah 89, you are trying to convince us to use our power and call up Dennis Allen and Greg Krapp and tell them to get rid of CP3 and put in your boy TP....

Dude seriously, put down the bong and read what people are saying instead of chasing your tail.... 

NO ONE HERE LIKES LOSING!!!!!!!!!!

We are simply pointing out facts....!

FACT CP3 IS BETTER THAN THE QBS WE HAVE HAD SINCE GANNON!!!

Look, most of us want to see what TP can do, just like you do.... I don't know what the hell you want from us... You want me to freakin call him the Anti-Christ or something? You want me to trun of the lights in the bathroom and chant TP 3 times and drink blood?

You want me to write Carson Palmer hate mail? Or prank call Reggie McKenzie's office? WTH?????


"Never argue with an idiot, he will only lower you to his level, and then beat you with his great experience.." LOL 

You have created more threads about Palmer losing than Palmer has actually lost games in his NFL career. And made more threads about Pryor winning at Ohio State than he actually won games there.

You cry constantly about the draft picks invested in players like Carson Palmer and Richard Seymour, yet you became a Raider fan when they traded for Randy Moss. With Randy Moss here the team won 6 total games in 2 years. They have already won that with Carson in 11 less games.

And neither Carson or Seymour quit on the Raiders, yet Moss did. So did players like DeAngelo Hall, Im sure you liked him as well.

When you guys keep bringing up that Palmer is the best QB the Raiders have had since Gannon tells me that you just don't get it.

Just because he's better than garbage doesn't make him good.
And is Carson really the best since Gannon? I don't think so. Jason Campbell's record was 11 wins - 7 Losses as Oakland's starter and Carson Palmer's record is 7 wins - 15 Losses as Oakland's starter.

89,

First and foremost Im a rummie not a scotch drinker. Second If Im drinking to much Rum you are drinking way to much bong water. Please for the love of all things good listen to me now

1. Palmer is not a bad QB, he is just not a great QB, he is not franchise QB, he is the top of the nest tier though.

2. Pryor is not ready, and probably never will be just because he can run does not make him a QB it makes him an easy to tackle running back.

3. As far as mobile QBs go there are no successful run first QBs that have won a super bowl. You mention alot of mobile guys who won super bowls but guess what they are classic throw first guys who can move. At this point Pryor is not one of them. From what we can tell he is more Tebow than he is Vick.

4. We all want to see what he can do, heck if he turns out like Kapernick or RGIII I will beg for you to place a million and one I told you so posts.

5. Be realistic with all of our other problems the one guy who is accountable for 85% of our yards and TDs is not the main problem.

6. If we did get rid of Palmer who would you get that was better? Tyrod Taylor? Vick? JR? Teblow? Just wondering cause last time I checked they all were horrible.

7. For the record with hind sight being 20/20 I would love for us to have not traded for Palmer we could have used the picks in better ways. But it is what it is.

I can't believe how delusional you guys are about Palmer. The dude sucks get over it. He is a major reason the Raiders are losing. He doesn't score enough and turns the ball over too much. He has put up similar numbers with the Bengals and still had losing seasons look at his stats. He also has never won a playoff game in his entire career. I hope you guys enjoy the losses as they mount with him.

Man this is ridiculous..

I dont even love Palmer.. But your continuous ramblings are so ignorant that it begs correction... 

 I can't believe how delusional you guys are about Palmer. The dude sucks get over it.

Take your own advice... seriously..lol  

Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get the F*** over it.... 

He is our QB untill Marc Davis, Reggie McKenzie, Dennis Allen or Greg Krapp decide otherwise, whether you or I love him or hate him...

THREAD AFTER THREAD AFTER THREAD AFTER THREAD.......... Say something new for crying out loud!

You remind me of the guy in a debate who is all nervous and constantly goes back to his 3x5 cards and reads them over and over no matter what the subject of the debate changes into....

Your logic is non existent... 

No one is saying CP3 is a franchise QB, no one is saying he is probowl, no one is saying he is great... He is what he is, above average, and yes better than what we have had....

You drive a beat up  1999 Geo Metro for 10 years and upgrade to a 2005 Toyota Corrolla it looks pretty damn good... We are not calling him a freakin Ferrari.. No one has....

According to your logic Trent Dilfer is a far better QB..... I mean the dude has a superbowl ring... But retards fail to see that Trent Dilfer with this line and this non existant run game and this defense/special teams would make this cow turd of a team look like fillet minon....

Yes you heard me Trent Dilfer and CP3 both playing behind this line on this team and Trent Dilfer looks like crap and CP3 looks like a franchise in comparison... There are other factors involved Einstein..

 Your lover Jason Campbell had DMC running wild. JC won those games going 10-18 for 112 yards and 1 TD....

I'm wasting my time here....LOL

I dont even care about Palmer... Like Gk said, it is what it is...  You are just so delusional that I cant help myself but mess with you..

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Carson Palmer is a career loser. He's one dimensional and makes too many mistakes. The Raiders will not go far with him.

I am willing to bet that the same was once said about Jim Plunkett. 


However, I will not post all the youtube videos about Plunkett and Dan Pastorini.  I'm sure there are more of those than Terrelle Pryor.