Rams Offseason thread

Veteran depth is good, but yeah I could have sworn the Chargers moved Jammer inside a couple years ago. I just noticed Jarius Byrd of Buffalo is an UFA. THAT is the guy we go for.

I'm honestly not high on any of the WR's available in the draft or through free agency. Patterson in the 2nd however I would like a lot and feel that's about what he's worth in this draft. 

KSU, I agree with you 100% that I'd rather spend money on a guy like Long or Maualuga. As I said none of the FA WR's really excite me at all. Bowe and Wallace I would avoid like the plague.  

Also if anyone was curious, here are the Rams opponents for next season. 

Home: Arizona, Seattle, San Francisco, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Chicago. 

Road: Arizona, Seattle, San Francisco, Atlanta, Carolina, Houston, Indianapolis, Dallas. 

I underlined the teams who are playoff teams this year. 

im predicting 10-6

wow ksu we could really pick up a great FA OLB and safety.  I say draft a OLB somewhere with size and speed, teach him the NFL game and make sure you get Jarius Byrd all day. 

good work.  START THE JARIUS BYRD CHANTS!



not sure about your drafting skills with the OLB from KSU in the 2nd? don't go homer on me...  He's a Jo-Lonn clone my man. 

not sure about your drafting skills with the OLB from KSU in the 2nd? don't go homer on me...  He's a Jo-Lonn clone my man. 


Every mock I have seen to date has Arthur Brown going anywhere from number 45-60, which is mid to late 2nd round. Totally not a homer thing. The whole "let's draft Collin Klein" thing, THAT was a homer move.    BTW, having a Jo Lonn clone on the other side of JL55 would not be a bad thing, would it??   And notice, I also mentioned Chase Thomas there with that 2nd round pick. I personally think AB will be gone when we pick at #48. SO THERE!! LOL

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Arthur Brown going #81 to the Giants. I think he's a mid 3rd round guy.

I predict Kirk Cousins will get traded in the off season. Washington will get alot for him. Hope Rams can trade for him and get rid of Bradford.

hmm, well that is the first draft I have seen with Brown that low.... draftek,draftsite,bleacherreport,newnfldraft...all have him in the 50's. He is going to be good, so I guess we will see.

I predict Kirk Cousins will get traded in the off season. Washington will get alot for him. Hope Rams can trade for him and get rid of Bradford.

I really do not want the Ram's trading Bradford away for Kirk Cousins, he has not proven anything yet in the NFL and only has 2 games under his belt?  Why trade away Bradford for another Kevin Kolb or Matt Flynn?  The Rams woud be stupid to do that, I'm willing to give the 25 yd old QB 1 more season to figure it out, otherwise we can dump him but definitely not for Kirk Cousins!!

Jo Lonn is a weakside LB KSU...  We don't need another 6' 228 weakside OLB, we need a beast at least 240-250 and taller.


And this Kirk Cousins thing is stupid.  This is why you draft a good back-up..  For trade bait!  I think we have a good young backup to Sam.  Get Sam some help on the O-line and maybe another big WR, then the guy has no more excuses.  Thank God.  

I agee Junkie, we need a huge stud at the other OLB and a safety and the defense will even be better.  I also want to give Sam Bradford another year with a big new LT,  a big, fast, wide body WR either through FAgency, trade or the draft to compete with Givens, Amendola, Kendricks and Gibson for catches.  What the Rams miss is a Megatron, Marshall, Johnson or Garcon that dominates double teams.  I also think another year for Shotts at OC is needed and then after this next season, if Bradford or Shotts don't take the Rams to the next level, then move on to the MANY FREE AGENT QBs available after next season. 

Hey Jermaine, Blue, Junkie: I had to take a couple of days to cool off after some aspects of the Offensive performance in Seattle that just horked me right off. The OLB you guys are looking for may be in the draft. Here is a couple of names that may fit the bill.

Barkevious Mingo, 6-4, 240lbs, projected to go in the first round; Chase Thomas, 6-4, 248lbs, projected to go in 2-3 rounds; Jamie Collins, 6-3, 240lbs, projected to go 2-3 rounds; Brandon Jenkins, 6-3, 260lbs, projected to go 2-3 rounds; Travis Long, 6-4, 245lbs, projected to go in round 3 or later.

Mingo might not get out of the top ten. We are going to pick two of the following with our two number 1s. Chase Warmack (LG), Eric Fisher (OT), Eric Reid (S), Kenny Vaccaro (S), Taylor Lewan (OT). Most of the mocks have us taking an O-lineman and a saftey in the first. I suspect it'll be Warmack, or Lewan, and Reid or Vaccaro. That leaves the second round and beyond. 

After reading comments from Snead and Fisher, I doubt if we are going to be anywhere as active in the FA market this year especially thowing money at a guy like Jake Long. Fisher likes alot of the roster he has and he is not going to replace two-thirds of it like he did this year. C. Dahl will most likely be gone or relegated to back-up and Robert Turner will be relegated to back-up. Wayne Hunter is probably history. The attention will be retaining Steven Jackson

In the second, some mocks have us taking a big TE and there are quite a few this year. Other mocks have us taking D.J. Fluker the big OT from Alabama to complement Warmack who Fisher really likes.  It may be one of the aforementioned OLBs still remaining. In the third, if we don't get Fluker, the mocks have us picking Ricky Wagner, another big OT out of Wisconsin.

So it is quite evident we will be going after O-line, Saftey, and then everything else in this year's draft and we will not be as active in the FA market either. retroram. 


     

Jo Lonn is a weakside LB KSU...  We don't need another 6' 228 weakside OLB, we need a beast at least 240-250 and taller.



OK, OK... Brown is not a fit for the Rams. But mark it down, he will be a BEAST in the NFL..somewhere!


Hey Retro, to me the Rams have 2 major FA focuses.. Steven Jackson and Danny Amendola. After that, we can look at Jarius Bryd at Safety. Harvey Dahl will still be the starter at LG but Saffold will move to RT and we will draft a LT...

First we need to re-sign SJax or address RB spot everything else we do offensively comes after that. 

Honestly this is the most important factor in Jeff Fisher's system of ground and pound smash mouth football.  

Our QB and WR corp is very well suited to compliment a sound running game.  If we can just run the ball more and run it well, we will have no problems passing it.  Look no furhter than both SF and Seattle.  They run the heck out of the ball both top 5 or better and then look at how efficient their passing game is. 

So with that in mind we should seek out and put together an OL that can run block and commit to the run for 4 quarters of football.  I think effective running, run scoring and OL penalities were our biggest problems last year in our offense.  When we ran the ball well, we threw the ball well.  So IMO, we fix those attributes and our WR's will get better seperation on pass plays our OL doesn't face blitz packages on nearly every down and we don't jump pre-snap or hold as much, we just move the chains.

Call me crazy but I think SJAX is moving on to a team he can share carries with another RB and have a shot at the title.  We all want a shot at the title.  Plus look at what Fisher is doing with Terrance Gannaway 6' 240 - he was drafted last year by the Jets in the 6th round right before Daryl Richardson.  Isiah Pead even looked pretty good against the Seawags.

At RB in the NFL, you really just need some young guys that hit the hole hard and have some speed.  And a mix of a small burner and big beast to pound the rock is perfect.


RETRO - I'm with you - Chance Warmack is a beast and might fall to us.  Eric Fisher would be ok with me later, but we don't know how long RG3 is going to play in the playoffs?  I think the Redskins can beat Seattle, especially if they run the ball like they did on the Cowboys.  But if it's late 1st round, who knows who will be there. 

We should get 3 pretty good picks with the two 1st rounders and the 2nd.


The Redskins will trade Kirk Cousins and get more picks, but they won't get a 1st rounder. 

And Bark Mingo is more of a DE and will play in a 3-4 in the NFL.  But he's a heck of an athlete and his name is awesome.


Lot of good names in this draft. 

Yea, Sportsjunkie: I see us implementing Ganaway, Richardson, and Pead in next year's rotation if Jackson leaves. However, both Fisher and Jackson want Jackson to stay and he may just finish his career here. He wants to stay but wants a bit more money and there is just as good a possibility of Jackson staying as he is going. But you may be right. He may chase the championship elsewhere. If recent talk has weight, the chances of Jackson staying are good because I have been reading articles that indicate he thinks he'll get the championship here if not next year then in two-three years. We shall see. 

Also, I see Warmack, Reid or Vaccaro in the first, Fluker in the second, and may be Thomas or Collins falling to us in the third. If either of the latter two OLBs are not there, I see us taking Ricky Wagner in the third and picking up a pretty big OLB in the later rounds (there are a couple that I did not list that would fit nicely). Either way, I think WR is not a priority except for re-signing Amendola and with a new potential DC, I see some additions to make this defense even tougher. 

Stay tuned as we head forward. retroram. 

Hello Everyone: Just to get a laugh, I thought I would post from New Orleans about an old dope. They found out what we knew here St Louis and Rams park. Apparently, Spigot was and still is a complete A-hole and the players on the Saints don't mind saying so. They all want him fired. Red this article and know Kroneke made the right decision by getting rid of SpagnuOlie. I know it is a blast from the past but it pumps me up that I was right afterall and so were many of you. Here is the said article.

There's a reason people say "winning fixes everything." Success overshadows most else, from personality conflicts to coaching shortcomings, and it's a lot easier to live with less-than-perfect working conditions if the end result is a championship.

That all changes when losing becomes a habit. The Jets are the obvious example, but on Tuesday, an anonymous [Saints] player blasted first-year defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo.

"Trust me, all the guys were being politically correct this season when answering questions [about Spagnuolo]," the player told the [Times-Picayune]'s Larry Holder. "It's bad."

When asked if Spagunolo should be fired, the player offered up a "resounding" yes.

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The Saints finished last in the league in total defense, allowing a mind-blowing 440 yards per game. The defense was just as inept when viewed through the prism of advanced metrics; according to [Football Outsiders], New Orleans was equally as bad against the pass (28th) as the run (30th).

"To give up what we gave up can't be all talent," the player continued. "Look at where his units [have] been ranked before. I think one top 10?"

So other than getting treaded every week and losing nine times (the Saints combined for just eight losses the previous two seasons), what's the problem with Spagnuolo?

"Players have no say in anything," the player told Holder. "It was [a] complete opposite from before where it was a simple D that players had lot of control and say. We couldn't suggest [expletive] … Nothing ever changed. It was his way only.

"Don't even get me started on lack [of] ability to adjust during games. Bad, bad, bad."

Not surprisingly, we never heard complaints from the 2007 Giants, the team that beat the previously undefeated Patriots in the [Super Bowl] thanks in part to a resurgent defense coordinated by -- you guessed it -- Spagnuolo.

"He does have that good-guy persona, but he is a control freak and treats people like crap," the Saints player said. "[Spagnuolo has] no patience and zero personality. [He] has a way of pissing players and our defensive coaches off with how he says and does things. [I] think it's even harder after having [former defensive coordinator] Gregg [Williams], who guys enjoyed."

On Wednesday, Saints linebacker [Jonathan Vilma] wasn't particularly jazzed with the anonymous comments directed at Spagnuolo. "If you are going to make a statement, Vilma said, be man enough to put your name on it." "I am." "The guy should be fired because he sucks"!


LOLOLOLOL rotational justice is swwweeeeeetttt!!! retroram. 

 I know it is a blast from the past but it pumps me up that I was right afterall and so were many of you.

LOL retro!  I called for that fools head in 2010, I got blasted by some on these boards for it too.  I'm glad the way things worked out because the Fisher hire timing would have been off.  So in hindsight suffering 2011 was a necessary evil besides it got us all those picks from the RG tripple sticks trade for Fisher and Snead to rebuild with...