Trading Carson Palmer

If the Raiders were to trade Carson Palmer in the offseason as they should what do you think they would get for him ?

I would give him 8 games next year. If he isn't winning games then I make a permanent change. However if someone wants to make a good offer I would do it. But I'd need a 1st in return which is very unlikely.

I wouldn't take less than a first round pick for him because you would have to turn around and either pick a QB in the draft or trade for one because we don't have another QB on this team.

Here's the scenario.

Trade Palmer for a 1st.

Trade McFadden for a 2nd.


Then trade down to pick up additional pick. Draft Aaron Murray & a top DE with first 2 picks.

Would have 2 1st rounders, a 2nd rounder & additional pick for trading down.

Or we could just try and get extra draft picks by lining up Janikowski and let him kick in the groin just to see how many times he can get his head to orbit the earth for making yet another stupid let's trade Palmer thread.  Do you have an imagination or just the crap that regularly spews from the orifice you use for a head?  Really, I don't mind the idea once or twice, but seriously you are trying for some sort of record of repitition.  Just because you aren't smart enough to come up with a better idea than to trade or cut the offensive MVP of our team, does not demonstrate any reason for you to even claim the right to be an amoeba.  Puss maybe, possibly a single bacteria, but definitely not evolved to anything beyond that.

Teams-GM's know the Raiders are desperate for a move like this but it won't happen, plain and simple.  Palmer is still the best option at QB and cutting him would cost us Salary Cap $ for two more years.

I wouldnt trade Carson Palmer for anything less then a first and it would have to be a decent first at that. We dont have any thing else right now. As much as i like pryor he still needs more time playing behind Palmer i feel. And unless we get a guy like Gruden who wants to go his own direction at QB, i think Palmer stays.

 

At this point it would take two first round picks to pry him out my hands. Why you ask because we have nothing behind him. We would lose 14 games next year without him. I would need compensation for losing that much in a year.

We lost 12 games with him. So if we lost 14 without him who cares. Really what's the difference.

Well, to be fair, Palmer was 4-10, Leinhart was 0-1 and Pryor was 0-1 (which is basically the same).

I still don't think you can trade Palmer for less than what it would cost to replace him because we don't have another QB on the roster that is worth a damn.

Leinhart shouldn't even be in the NFL at any position and my daughter throws a stronger pass than Pryor and she's 5'2" and only weighs about 110 lbs.

nobody is gonna give a 1st round pick for Carson Palmer not with the low $$ we pay 1st rounders..   you can get a 4th rounder maybe and for sure a 3rd rounder for McFadden..   good qb's and rb's  can be had in lesser rounds..   Alfred Morris anybody?

we need to give McKenzie a fair shot by gutting the roster, having a full supply of draft picks and 50/60 million available in cap space..    i still think next year's schedule is in our favor and we can turn things around

I saw a stat during one of the games last weekend that showed that we had the weakest SOS in football (tied with San Diego).

How does next years schedule get more favorable than that?

The Raiders should get whatever draft picks they can for Carson Palmer. Palmer is old, turnover prone, bad in the redzone and he can't escape pressure and make plays because he is as slow as a sloth.

They should start the double threat QB Terrelle Pryor and either trade for Tyrod Taylor or sign a free agent like Chase Daniel, Drew Stanton, or Jason Campbell or draft Aaron Murray if he is available in round 4 or later to be his backup.

I cant argue all that. He is no spring chicken, turnover prone, not clutch at all and cant move. Those are my gripes as well. As sad as it is to say, he is still our best option right now. I like Terrelle Pryor and he has real potential IMO, jyst not yet. He isnt ready and better put something on those passes. I throw hard for an average sized man, so at his size, that ball better leave a vapor trail behind it.

Trading CP3 would be the most absurd thing to do right now. He was a "one man show" on offense last year, and that's why he threw 14 INT's. Of those 14, any where from 3-5 should be blamed on the receiver, so with all the attempts, he only should be held accountable for no more than 11 INT's. Out of 565 passing attempts, he threw 14 INT's, at a 2.5% clip. Give him a decent running game, and take some of the load off of his shoulders, and his stats would be even better. He's not the problem, so no need in trading him away.

Wilbo he's not the problem. You are 100% right in that. But is he really the solution? I dont know. Some team who feels like they are close may throw a decent pick at him. Kind of like we did although we got held hostage. We were in desperation mode with Kyle Boller and Hue swung for the fences. We wiffed big time. But if another team like the Vikings feel like a better QB may be all they need than we should at least entertain some offers. I guess it all depends on if there are any takers. And what we decide to do. Are the Raiders actually gonna "blow it up". Or are they gonna stick with most of these guys on offense and hire an OC with at least half a brain. I don't see them making major changes on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe DHB and maybe an OL or 2. If that's the case then we should stick with Carson and hope that him, a better OC, and DMoore, Streater, Dmac, Reece and whoever else can gel together. I still have hope for Carson and our offense. I kind of feel like firing knapo should be addition by subtraction like with Breshnahan. But that didn't really work out. So who knows. Reggie has his work cut out for him.

I just have one question to any body with a shread of intellect, yes 89 I am discounting your responce already. If we got rid of Palmer who would you get to start that could do better than him and cost us less?

Matt Flynn? Unproven
Tyrod Taylor? LOL get F*$K out of here
A rookie? there is none NFL ready this year
A trade? Yeah thats the ticket lets waste another 1st round pick pay Palmer his salary for being cut, and the new QBs salary thats the way to fix it.

Duh, he wants to start Pryor. Jump passes all around.

These guys available that everyone keeps mentioning. The Matt Flynn is the new Kevin Kolb. Alex Smith is the new Trent Dilfer. We might as well sign Sanchez and Tebow and cross our fingers that they can coexist without the New York media pointing out the flaws in their games.

Leppy my point exactly there is nothing better than Palmer available to us. Alot of people around here just need to get used to that fact.
As far as Im concerned Palmer is a top 10 to 15 QB in the league right now. Which is better than average, everything available is far below average. talking top 25 to 50 range, basically back-ups.

As far as Pryor is concerned I am stoked that we have him now that I have seen him play. I do undestand that hes not ready yet, and still may never be. I just dont see the problem with him sitting behind Palmer for another couple of years. Look what sitting did for Rodgers. If he can have the time to learn and not get blasted whats the problem. He can still be used in special packages and Im not talking just the Napping Knapp either.

I personally don't understand how anyone can prefer Matt Leinart to Pryor for the backup position, no matter the scenario.

But then again, the Knapp bring alongs of Briesel and Leinart really help to make the point about why Knapp was a disaster from the beginning.

I still have hopes for Pryor, but do also think he needs to learn from someone with more of a gunslinger mentality, as Palmer is. Palmer may be disposable after 2013, or his injury may be aggrivated (or he suffer a new injury) and Pryor take the reigns. But if we have Pryor, we know we at least have a backup that can make some noise in case of injury or a new OC having no idea what to do with Palmer.

Here's hoping that we can find the best WR coach in the league in the offseason. Shocking to me that for all the dropped balls we saw this season, we were only bottom 5 in the stat. I'd go wacky/creative with hand eye coordination drills if it was me, because it would make a huge difference just to be able to cut the drops in half means so many more first downs...