Where are all the QUALIFIED black HCs?

bsting, you will never rid the world of racism, you just wont! there will always be rude and dumb people that believe in hate, and this means all people not just white or black or anything else! i just think people are way to fast to pull the race card, remember al sharpton at duke yelling racism?? yeah what happened there my man?
but to answer your question, no i dont think who owners hire have anything to do with the days of slavery at all! and to be honest with you, i think blacks do more to bring themselfs down then anybody else does! but again thats just my opinion tho!

and i will also point out , we were talking about players and coaches, just remember that both jordan and magic started out as just players, now they both own teams!

F.Y.I.......the comparison I'm making,  is not Slavery to the NFL....the comparison is the mentality of "owners" during the slavery era, and the mentality of "owners" today that discount the abilities of minorities, that continue to deny individuals opportunities based on old stereotypes and prejudices from years past...and yes, I speak as a black person, and I believe black folks are far more insulted by those conditions, then and now, and being discounted as people, discounted in regards to accomplishments and abilities, than are insulted by my comparison...again, just an opinion of someone that speaks, as a black person...

yeah what happened there my man? ...

so one man was wrong, on 1 isolated case, therefore you throw out everything else...what about the many issues that he was right about??...lol...any discussion of race here, never happens without at least one reference to Sharpton or Jackson, as if race wasn't an issue before and will be after they are gone....you can sum up the entire issue of racism in America, hundreds of years of American  race history with , the Shapton/Duke case..lol

how do u know they discount their abilities? you dont! you are passing off your opinion as a fact . maybe these owners just think a person will do a better job then another person, to back track a bit, you brought up the Jets and rex ryan? well that same jets org has had a black coach correct? and yes he got fired but in all honesty if the jets dont turn around ryan will be hitting the road as well!

no my point about sharpton is everytime something happens its the first thing he yells. yes i agree he has been right on issues before but for it to be the first thing he yells and marches about before knowing the facts... well it sets all of us back!

and iam not suming up all american race history with that one case, iam sure there are plenty of examples on both sides we can use

Hell, Clinton got his duck sicked in the Oval Office

You say it like its a bad thing

You say it like its a bad thing

Well, considering WHO was giving out the bloe jahb.....yeah, pretty much.

Ronald Reagan tripled the National Debt,and raised the ceiling 17 times
and
George W. Bush doubled the National Debt,and raised the ceiling 7 times

Let's take from a perspective we all can understand regarding debt instead of the decepetive way you present it.

In the case of Reagan, it would be like someone having a $1,000 balance on their credit card, and then increasing that to $2,900 over 8 years.  In the case of Bush, it would be like someone having a $5600 balance and increasing that to 10,600 over 8 years.  In the case of Obama it would be like someone having a $10,600 balance and increasing that to $16,400 over 4 years.  we can all see who has things in the worse shape, but your argument is they are the ones doing the best job.  Republican constituents also challenged Bush and the Republicans on the spending (including Rush, Hannity, etc).  The problem we have now is that Democrats won't hold Obama accountable for his spending.  In fact they make excuses to cut nothing at all except defense, which ironically is the one thing you can't privatize. 

Q)Can we agree that tax cuts don't pay for themselves?

No, b/c revenues increased significantly after the Bush tax cuts.  Just didn't keep up with the spending increases.  The spending increases were the problem, and I don't see it getting better, b/c we'll have a guy for the next 4 years that just wants to tax and spend. 

Low Capital Gains Taxes fuel income inequality,not investment.
and
Income inequality has reached an 80 year high.

What cap in earnings would you put on every American?  Don't we need the income equality now if you are only going to tax the 1% and if we ever want to pay off the debt?

Q)Can we agree that most Americans pay taxes? 

The Estate Tax has virtually no impact on family farms and businesses
and 
The Federal Tax burden has hit a 60 year low

More stats I'm sure you will spin

Q)Can we agree Obama inherited the residue of wreckless governing that now only benefits the wealthy?
and

No.  Can we agree that instead of focusing on jobs and the economy, Obama and the 2 Democratically controlled branches of Congress focused on pushing their ideological social issues like Obamacare?  Things that created economic uncertainty for businesses and should actually only be implemented in prosperous time?

Q)Will the Republican Party have a Latino candidate for US President in 2016? 

Maybe.  Will the Democrats actually let a woman run for President in 2016?

So you're trying to sell that they right will be OK with people getting IDs will a power bill in lieu of a birth certificate?  I find that hilarious and I don't believe that you actually believe that.
Yeah, if it was done correctly.  Nice use of "profiling" the other side when you can't justify your side actually helps the poor like they claim when they are judging others.


Both parties ran on the economy and the debt.  The Dems had the bonus of the war on monorities and the war on women. The words and actions of the right don't suggest that they are fake and if they are you might want to teach the politicians on that side how to better express themselves


Except the war on women and war on minorities don't exist (which is why you can't name any policies to support your claim).  They were made issues used t odemonize the other side and avoid talking about the economy b/c their economic record sucked.


No, what I'm saying is they are just as prevalent in white neighborhoods as minority neighborhoods per capita and if they are put in minority neighborhoods to kill minorities then what are they so prevalent in white neighborhoods for?


The ones in white neighborhoods are for killing as well.  The purpose of all abortion clinics is killing.  The point about the ones in minority is the Dems are the ones who always exploit minorites by playing the race card, yet they are the ones who support the policies which actually intentionally kill minorities.


If Democrats take any actions that help the rich in all likelihood the action was taken to help everyone.  Reps on the otherhand seem to believe if they help the rich the rich will help the poor which we find in most cases that doesn't happen.


Yeah, I used to be an idealistic Democrat myself.  There is a sense of comfort in dreaming


It's a small price to pay to get our citizens insured IMO.  you think that poor people going to the ER as their primary care doctor, the cost isn't getting passed on to you?  This is a Republican idea, since we will pay for the healthcare of the poor one way or another we might as well insure them.  The Heritage Foundation came up with the idea and Mitt Romney implemented it in Mass.  But of course Obama introduces it and it's the worst thing ever imagined.  Larger companies should have been supplying healthcare anyway, smaller companies will be exempt and we'll see how it truly affects midsized companies. 


You think we won't still be paying for them, as undocumented workers no they can go to the ER, get treated, and never have to pay.  Larger companies already were providing insurance, and what Romney did on the State level is the problem of the people of Massachusetts.  The exemption helps small companies as long as they don't want to become larger ones, but regulations that that inhibit small company growth as they get to the point where they would like to expand (grow larger, create more jobs), but can't b/c they can't afford the financial burden the gov puts on them.  It would be great to be able to have everyone insured, at little cost to them, but difficult and expensive to do.  Pushing their ideology on everyone else is the most important thing to Dems, but they could have waited until the private sector got us ecomically prosperous again.  

then you don't want to see it so I won't waste my time looking up all this info and posting it.  I'm sure it won't make a difference.    


Well you have been wasting a lot of your time by being wrong on this subject

Conservatives and liberals interpret the constitution differently.  It doesn't mean that one is following the Constitution and the other is ignoring it. 


Actually, liberals pretty much ignore it.  Especially, the 2nd 10th Amendments (they really hate the 10th Amendment b/c they like to make up stuff that isn't there to take away a state's write to decide on things not addressed by the Constitution).

Mike Tomlin has been the coach for 6 years.  He's won a Superbowl, has been to another superbowl and has been in the playoffs 4 of his 6 years and won the division 3 times.  He was 8-8 last year, his worst but the 2 years before he was 12-4 matching his teams's best records.  His teams have been far more consistant than Bill Cowher's teams.  I know that you're not suggesting that he should be canned for one .500 season but if anyone in the league has earned a chance to turn things around next season it's Tomlin.  I don't think his longevity (if 6 years is really longevity) has anything to do with his skin color.  Lewis on the other hand, I'm not sure how he made it so long but he has made the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years.  That may have something to do with it. 


I didn't say his skin color had anything to do with it.  I said it should be acknowledged that the 2 coaches with the most job security in the NFL are black, and for him it was b/c Pittsburgh tends to hang on to their coaches.  Brian Billick had a similar record of success and was fired 2 years removed from a 13-3 season and a first round loss to Peyton Manning the year Indy won the SB.  Despite going 12-4, the Steelers lost to Tim Tebow and the Broncos who were blown out in the next rd.  This year they were 8-8.  Point being as Cowher's players age, we'll see what Tomlin does to turn things around.  In Pitt he'll probably get a long time to do so, unlike the white coaches who are subjected to the NFL (Not For Long) policy. 

I'm starting to think CBS is conservative.  they won't let me post certain things.

That should tell you something. Maybe, they don’t want people reaching out into thin air and coming up with  nonsense, the way you do.

I see a person's right to vote, their constitutional right to vote, is different than a right to welfare. But they are eligible to vote.  They are eligible to vote until SOMEONE comes in trying to say you can't vote without an ID. 

You still don’t get it!  They don’t have a constitutional right to vote, if they’re in this country illegally. They don’t have the right, if they’re using a dead person’s name. They don’t have the right, if someone tells them, go vote in my place. Every time I go to vote, I pulled out my driver’s license. I don’t have to, but I do it because I want them to know it’s the real me. Once again, STOP INSULTING MINORITES, by thinking they can’t do a simple task. You’re the real racist!

I guess Romney didn't solve his own problem then.

How could he win an election, when the other guy who’s in office, is promising to give people more “free stuff”. Now, that term “free stuff” is NOT my words. Since you and some of your friends know about the ‘hood, your SHOULD know who came up with it. Be honest, now!  During the campaign, I heard many blacks, tell me those exact words. If you did live in the ‘hood, you didn’t have your “listening ears on” (borrowing a term from Judge Judy).  It seems to me, you hear what you wanna hear. You can’t handle the truth!

tampa, let me ask you this, say romney won the election and they went his first 4 years and really made no difference, would you accept if all he did was blame the last guy , in this case obama? you seem like a really level headed guy, i doubt you would accept that!



denny, if you buy a building and decide you're going to demolish the building and build a new one, it's going to take you a lot longer to build that new building than it will take to tear down the current one.  Bush spent 8 years tearing down the building.  People were upset at Obama after a year when the new building wasn't ready for turnkey leasing when he was still trying to clear out the rubble.  I don't think Obama or Romney would have had the building rebuilt 4 years from now and if your scenario had happened, in all honesty, I would still be pointing at Bush as the Demolition Man and simply would be saying "see, Romney couldn't do it either!!"  I expected from the start of this presidency that there was no way our country would be rebuilt at the end of 8 years with the state it was in and I don't think a McCain presidency would have been better.  So, to answer the question directly, no I wouldn't accept Romney blaming Obama for Obama not being able to rebuild in 4 years what Bush tore down in 8 but I would certainly accept Romney blaming Bush as I do. 

tampa, the story i came across shows that the unemployment rate from truman thru obama is pretty much the same, it has the dems avg at 5.6 and the repubs at 5.9, i would say thats about the same! dont know if you have seen something different or not?


denny, aren't the Republicans the party of getting people to work and job creation and all this bull?  If that's the case then the unemployement rate should be flipped, no matter how much the overall average is.  The facts are the facts, you can massage it any way you wish, but GDP goes up and unemployment goes down under Dems and the opposite under the Reps.  Look up each president and see where unemployement was when they started and each year of their presidency.  You'll see the pattern if you're open to it. 

Just because a person didn't vote for him doesn't mean that they don't consider him their President.  I don't see people running out of the Country because Obama got elected.  And please do not bring up the petition of states trying to cecede from the nation.  It happens after every election, for one always talking about looking up information it should be easy for you to find.  You are sitting here complaining about how you have seen people walking around with the "Hes not my President" shirt. Yet you can sit here and say, "I wasn't part of the half so i didn't elect him" isn't this the same thing.  Whether you vote for a man does not change the fact that he is the leader of "we".  "We" can't unite as long as there are people like yourself, from either side, who can't accept each others diffences and move on.  Just because you voted for Obama and I didn't doesn't mean I'm still not a part of the "We" that you talk about. 


What you read and what I said couldn't be any further away from each other.  I didn't say Bush wasn't my president.  I'm an American, the President of the United States is my president regardless of whether I elected him or not.  My point was that you can't blame me for electing Bush.  I didn't elected Bush.  If you didn't vote for Obama then you didn't elect Obama.  I'm not going to accept someone saying "We aren't racist, we elected Obama" when they voted for McCain and Romney.  Also, I'm not saying that someone who didn't vote for Obama is automatically racist, just that people who didn't vote for Obama can't use him being elected as a reason racism is dead. 

Except the war on women and war on minorities don't exist (which is why you can't name any policies to support your claim).


The voter fraud laws show the war on minorities, the abortion laws that the right continually try to introduce show the war on women.  It's hard to show any true policies on the war on women because they don't get passed but they did pass the law in Virginia I believe it was where they force a woman to look at an untrasound of their cell cluster before she is allowed to get an abortion. 



The ones in white neighborhoods are for killing as well.  The purpose of all abortion clinics is killing.  The point about the ones in minority is the Dems are the ones who always exploit minorites by playing the race card, yet they are the ones who support the policies which actually intentionally kill minorities.  


So if it's all for killing them it's not just about minorities so your opinion that the Dems are targeting minorities is way off. 


You think we won't still be paying for them, as undocumented workers no they can go to the ER, get treated, and never have to pay.  Larger companies already were providing insurance, and what Romney did on the State level is the problem of the people of Massachusetts.  The exemption helps small companies as long as they don't want to become larger ones, but regulations that that inhibit small company growth as they get to the point where they would like to expand (grow larger, create more jobs), but can't b/c they can't afford the financial burden the gov puts on them.  It would be great to be able to have everyone insured, at little cost to them, but difficult and expensive to do.  Pushing their ideology on everyone else is the most important thing to Dems, but they could have waited until the private sector got us ecomically prosperous again.  


I don't buy that small businesses won't grow into larger businesses because of healthcare.  Talk about scare tactics.  If you're company earns the money to become larger, hire more people and be forced to supply healthcare then you have the choice of going with it, staying small or becoming larger and paying the fines for not supplying healthcare.  It will be their choice.  As far as pushing idiology on everyone, Republicans do that too, especially with their religious beliefs. 

I didn't say his skin color had anything to do with it.  I said it should be acknowledged that the 2 coaches with the most job security in the NFL are black, and for him it was b/c Pittsburgh tends to hang on to their coaches.  Brian Billick had a similar record of success and was fired 2 years removed from a 13-3 season and a first round loss to Peyton Manning the year Indy won the SB.  Despite going 12-4, the Steelers lost to Tim Tebow and the Broncos who were blown out in the next rd.  This year they were 8-8.  Point being as Cowher's players age, we'll see what Tomlin does to turn things around.  In Pitt he'll probably get a long time to do so, unlike the white coaches who are subjected to the NFL (Not For Long) policy. 


Well, I'd say if Tomlin isn't picking players, you know, doing the GMs job, then it's not his fault if "Cowher's players" get old.  He's done a great job being consistant up until this year.  As far as the guy with the most job security, I'd say that guy is Bill Belichick.    

You still don’t get it!  They don’t have a constitutional right to vote, if they’re in this country illegally.


We are talking about citizens of this country, not illegals.  duh they can't vote if they are illegals. 

They don’t have the right, if they’re using a dead person’s name.


OK, and if a dead person applies for a voter ID card, you deny the card.  It shouldn't be that hard. 


   They don’t have the right, if someone tells them, go vote in my place


Ok, and again the laws being introduced the to fight voter fraud is about not letting people without IDs even get cards.  They are about limiting early voting and shutting down non-partisan voter registration drives.  It's not about someone showing up with someone else's voter registration card because they can't make it or what ever.


Once again, STOP INSULTING MINORITES, by thinking they can’t do a simple task. You’re the real racist!


What are you even talking about?

How could he win an election, when the other guy who’s in office, is promising to give people more “free stuff”. Now, that term “free stuff” is NOT my words. Since you and some of your friends know about the ‘hood, your SHOULD know who came up with it. Be honest, now!  During the campaign, I heard many blacks, tell me those exact words. If you did live in the ‘hood, you didn’t have your “listening ears on” (borrowing a term from Judge Judy).  It seems to me, you hear what you wanna hear. You can’t handle the truth!


I'm not going to tell you that there are people who believe that.  They believe that about most Democrats and they believe that Republicans aren't going to hand them a thing.  But that's beside the point.  Blacks make up, what, 16% of the country?  something like that.  Blacks looking for free stuff didn't get Obama re-elected.  Obama was ripe for the picking and Romney couldn't close the deal.  If was mostly people who either believed in Obama or felt Romney was disconnected and couldn't be trusted.