Navy AD says Boise State "not worth it"

Boise needs to play better teams but those better teams refuse to play them.

Unless you can support this statement with more than just your word I don't buy it. Other non-AQs haven't had the problems Boise has had getting good teams scheduled. How do you explain that? 

You can't explain it in a way that I will believe it, anyway. Boise State wants to be treated like an AQ team when they are not an AQ team and they don't even have a good stadium to play in. Boise is either going to have to take one-and-dones like the Fresno's and Nevada's out there or just be relegated to playing soft schedules for the next twenty years or so. I can see by looking at Boise's future schedules that they have elected to choose the latter. 

Good luck is all I can say. You don't want one-and-dones? Don't bitch and cry when you get passed over for the Sugar Bowl again. Expect it to happen because it will. 

I think there's some stronger AQs out there that are willing to do one and dones at home, sometimes even at "neutral" sites like Georgia and Virginia Tech did. Coyle better take those games the same way Bleymaier did. The crappy part is that fellow non-AQs will only do home and homes with Boise. That's it. The same non-AQ teams that the big boys will only play at home (for the most part). That's the dilemma and that right there makes it extremely difficult for Boise to even scrape together six home games. So what do you want Boise to do? They need six home games for the revenue. I hate to say it but based on their performance they deserve six homes games on the blue turf, especially when you consider that almost every AQ team gets seven and sometimes even eight home games. It's just a bad spot to be in considering how many good to great teams that Boise has fielded recently. They are a mid-major, but they are not your run of the mill mid-major.

Geneh,

Seriously, can you add?  Can you read English?  Or are you just too bullheaded to listen or plain old stupid?

Sure, Boise could take one and dones like so many other schools have done.  It's a loser's bet.  Why on earth should Boise copy losers?  They aren't.  They ask for a simple thing, half of their games at home.  They will play ANY team willing to treat them like an equal.  They will pay the standard rate for home and home deals, not one school would lose a dime playing Boise.  But they might have to give up that 7th or 8th home game, which is the problem.  The math doesn't work.  SEC schools can't all have 7 or 8 home games unless someone else only gets 4 or 5 home games.  Sorry, the word "stupid" isn't part of Boise State's method of game scheduling.  Is it part of yours?

Why should Boise double the size of its stadium if they are never going to get top teams to play there?  Why should they take games in which the other team has every imaginable advantage? 

Why doesn't Boise take those games?  Well look at the results.  Fresno, who you love so much, took those games.  Sure they won a few of them, against all odds, but they lost more.  Tell me, how many BCS appearances do they have?  Zero.  How many conference championships?  Zero!  What happened to the coach, Pat Hill, who is famous for "anywhere, any place, any time?"  Fired in shame.  In 11 attempts, they have one, yes, one win against Boise.  Usually they are on the losing end of a 30, 40 or 50 point beat down.

And you want us to copy them?  Gee, you are dumber than I thought, geneh.

Boise has beaten Fresno like a rented mule lately. Unfortunately we shared the MWC title with them last year after our special teams completely debacled against San Diego State, blowing our BCS opportunity. In the end it worked out the way it should have. Boise clearly didn't deserve a bid last year anyway.

And the formula hasn't been working for Fresno. They have not been nearly as talented as Boise either. I will say that with the exception of the bowl game, Tim Deruyter did a very nice job in his first year. He's going to do everything he can to close the gap. I still respect them and like seeing them do well when they aren't playing Boise.

Why should Boise double the size of its stadium if they are never going to get top teams to play there?

  Why should they take games in which the other team has every imaginable advantage? 

Why doesn't Boise take those games?

And you want us to copy them?  Gee, you are dumber than I thought, geneh.

Like I said, don't let me catch you crying on here the next time Boise State gets passed over for a bowl game by an AQ with a stronger SOS and fewer wins than Boise.

And it will happen again, you can bet on it. I guess neither you or your AD has a good answer for that one. Oh well. Can't say you weren't warned.

Like I said, Good luck. You'll need lots of it.

Sorry, didn't finish the post and hit the wrong key.

Why should Boise double the size of its stadium if they are never going to get top teams to play there?

Ok, so don't do it and I guarantee they'll never play there. Is that really what Boise wants? I am beginning to think it is. It gives them an excuse to schedule 11 cupcakes a season and then hold their hand out for a BCS bowl bid. Good luck. 

Why should they take games in which the other team has every imaginable advantage? 

Uh, because Boise State fans say they are better than those teams? If you don't think Boise is better, then continue with the cupcake parade. Penn State, FSU and many other teams took the hard route. Guess what, it worked for them. It didn't work for Fresno because they lost those games.

Boise is going to have to win big road games before they are going to be taken seriously as a Top 5 team. Don't you get that? I guess not. Your AD's haven't gotten it in the past, either.

Why doesn't Boise take those games?

Because they are afraid they might lose those games like you claim Fresno and rest do? Maybe. Probably.

Why should Boise double the size of its stadium if they are never going to get top teams to play there?

Wow!!!  So dont expand and see if the big boys come....... wow!!!  Now thats great thinking...........

And get rid of that blue field while youre at it......

Why should Boise double the size of its stadium if they are never going to get top teams to play there?


If BSU expanded the stadium it would atleast have a better chance to pull in bigger programs....Bama would have to leave half the band at home to fit in your stadium atm.


Why should they take games in which the other team has every imaginable advantage?


I know right.......God forbid you came to T-Town. You know the field is longer and goes up hill. Its also green so your uniforms dont match the grass.......THe Goal posts are only two foot across as well and 50 ft tall at the cross bar.....At bama's stadium the opponents locker room is actually in birmingham so you have to take a bus from the locker room to the field........The grass is 6 ft tall on the field because we dont have the BSU grads to cut the grass.....You cant get gatorade on the opponents sideline in bama's stadium only water.....





I am sorry but playing at another opponents stadium is not this big disadvantage your trying to make it out to be............

Did you really just say that? Come on, BamaTime. Home field advantage is a huge deal, especially when the game is being played in a hostile environment. You of all people should know that as a Bama fan playing an SEC schedule. Vegas thinks it's a pretty big deal. The general rule of thumb is when two completely evenly matched teams play, the home team is about -4 while the road team is +4. That's an eight point swing which can be huge in closely contested game.

Did you really just say that? Come on, BamaTime. Home field advantage is a huge deal, especially when the game is being played in a hostile environment. You of all people should know that as a Bama fan playing an SEC schedule. Vegas thinks it's a pretty big deal. The general rule of thumb is when two completely evenly matched teams play, the home team is about -4 while the road team is +4. That's an eight point swing which can be huge in closely contested game.



The thing is B4Life all away games arent equal wouldnt you say? Is travelling to Nevada as hostile as traveling to say LSU? That being said yes there is an advantage to playing at home....No where near as big as smiles makes it seems though. Hell I think bama has a better record at tiger stadium then at Bryant denny. Bama plays plenty of away games at tough opponents home fields....They might be conf opponents but its still away......Smiles is the one who makes it seem like BSU is just horrified to step onto a major teams field......

So should they take 4 or 5 home games instead of the 6 that they are barely able to scrape together each year? Barely any home games for their fans. Is that what you're saying?

So should they take 4 or 5 home games instead of the 6 that they are barely able to scrape together each year? Barely any home games for their fans. Is that what you're saying?



Nope not at all.....I am saying make the OOC games your going to play count...Instead of going to BYU go to OU, Nebraska, Bama, USC, Stanford or a big time program......I am not saying get less home games because I understand why a team wants and needs home games..........Just use those OOC away games your already taking and play top competition.

BYU is the only one of those teams that is willing to schedule home and homes with Boise. That's why we're playing them for the next ten seasons.

COMON SMILIE!

Thats NO WAY to speak to Geneh!

I have seen the guy come to your defense more than once!  You OUGHT to be ashamed! Is that even possible!?


LOL   Have to think your short fuse is why you have the rep you do.

That and the fact you really believe BSU is being treated like that "redheaded stepchild" by the CFB world for NO REASON! 



You ought to be more cool and calm,like me!  Dont let what everything these NO GOOD, DIRTY, LITTLE RED NECKED, BLUE BELLIED, GREEN EYED ENVIOUS, FOUL MOUTHED,COMMUNISTIC, WHITE SUPREMISTS from down South say, get to ya man!


LOL 

What this all boils down to is that Smiles is upset because Boise State isn't given a seat at the big table with the big boys. Smiles has yet to learn that that seat has to be earned. Will BSU lose some of those games on the road? Sure they will. Will they win some of them? Sure they will. But not if they don't ever play them. And if they don't ever play them many more MAACO Bowls await Boise State.

When a non-AQ takes the risk of a one-and-done and plays well, win or not, they gain a tremendous amount of respect. Over the years that respect builds. Teams like Southern Miss and La.-Monroe have earned a tremendous amount of respect over the last few years. If one of them ever plays an undefeated season or possibly a 1-loss season they will be playing in a big bowl game. Why? Because they have earned it over the years. That's something Boise fans like Smiles just don't understand. Evidently it can't be drilled into his head because he just chooses not to view it in that light.

AMEN GENEH!


.............and to all those athiest from other places than down home southern states "SPOT ON" !



Watch this reaction!   J/K just a jab at all the religous overtones of yesterday( mainly by me).

I didnt mean to insut any race, creed or nationality!  I was just trying to make light of too heavy  a subject for this board! 

Yes. Southern Miss and Louisiana-Monroe have earned a tremendous amount of respect. Good one, geneh.

I am sorry but playing at another opponents stadium is not this big disadvantage your trying to make it out to be............

Says the fan of the team bringing in two current FCS teams and a bottom nonAQ.  Says the fan of a team that always hires three mules (or hookers) to come in and lay down for them on a Saturday night.

I marvel at the total inability of Southerns to do simple math.  If one school has 7 or 8 home games some other school is forced to have 4 or 5. And of course the ones with the advantage think it fair and fail to see the problem.

You good folks are so clueless that it's hard to carry on a dialogue.

You want Boise to go on the road?  They took on Georgia on the road.  Beat them.  Orengon on the road.  Beat them.  VT on the road. Beat them.  Every year they open in some giagantic stadium taking on a team with a big home (or almost home) feld advatnage.

Every year for the last five.

Don't you thin that it's time for one of your cowardly schools to return the favor?

Well, are you men or mice?   Come on, squeak up!

Geneh,

You can't fix stupid.

You crack me up.  Boise has gone on the road and beat better teams than S. Miss or La-Monroe did. 

If you want me to be honest, teams like S. Miss and La-Monroe are exactly what is wrong with the sport.  As long as some schools are willing to sell themselves out to the bigs for a paycheck, there will be bigs willing to hire them.

It's a perfect world for the bigs.  They can hire these teams, and pencil in an almost certain win.  Their fans are either too drunk, too stupid, or too determined to rack up a win that they never complain.  And the victim teams don't realize, I guess, that when you take on games that you are the overwhelming favorite to lose, that you will teach your players, well, how to lose.

Why should Boise be that stupid?  Why should they hire themselves out like cheap hookers? 

Nope, we'll save stupid for others.