QB options

It is my opinion that no QB in this years draft is worth ther #1 overall pick. Remember before all you Geno fans get in an uproar its an opinion. That being the case I see us either trading down or picking an OL or DL with our first pick. I see us using our #34 pick to acquire the best QB available.

If we do pick a QB in round 2 I do not see the Chiefs putting complete faith in the QB. So I see them picking up an free agent. This will be a safety valve and allow the Draft pick to mature before we throw them to the vultures. A few FA options I see as possibilities are.

1.) Matt Flynn personally I did not get the chance to see much of this player but from reports from other Chiefs fans he is someone we need to be looking at strongly. Dorsey should have some sort of connection with him and I believe Seattle would be willing to make the trade.

2.) Foles with Vicks history of injuries I am not sure the Eagles would be willing to trade him. Reid however should have the upper hand here knowing if Foles fits the need and can be acquired at a reasonable price.

3.) Alex Smith with the 49er's finding there Qb of the future. I would think they would be motivated to trade Smith so they would free up some cap space. He might not be the answer we are looking for but could fill the need while the QB we choose with our #2 draft pick developes. You got to feel sorry for the guy he has a good win loss record, has done nothing but praise the organizations that have tossed him around like a dirty sock. He history in the league seemed to be with a differant OC every year which takes a toll on a player.

4.) Flacco forget it. Its not going to happen. I just felt the need to mention him as an option because other post has thrown his name into the mix. The Ravens are not going to let him go.

5.) Jason Cambell not real up with this player but he still would be an big improvement over our current situation.

6.) Matt Moore has had some good games but personally I do not see him as a fit for the Chiefs. Still if given the option of him or one of our current QB's Moore would be starting.

7.) Cousins I know he is not a Free Agent but maybe still a possibility. This all depends on how much the Skins have faith in RG3's ability to stay healthy. Cousins showed he has what it takes and can play with the big boys. Do the Skins trade him off opening up cap space and preventing any sort of QB contraversity.

Here is how I would want my wish list to go. This is assuming we get a decent Qb with potential like Bray or Wilson with our #2 pick.

1.) Foles - given the upper hand over Flynn because he has more game experiance and has proven himself a little more.
2.) Flynn - Going off other people observations Question is. Is he a one game wonder or a star waiting to be discovered.
3.) Cousins- edging Alex Smith because I believe he has more of an upside.
4.) Alex Smith- Good player would be happy with him coming to KC. He is just not the star we all want. Still better than average.
5.)Matt Moore / Jason Cambell toss up here. Would not be overly excited with either of these QB's but still better than what we have.

Did not mention Flacco because I believe it would be nothing more than a dream.

So what Qb would you like to see the Chiefs trade for or pick up as a free agent?

What about flipping 1st round picks with the Jets for Sanchez as an option?

What about flipping 1st round picks with the Jets for Sanchez as an option?

You really posted that? Sanchez is a 12.8 cap hit next year and owed almost 10 mil in bonuses after that. J E T S love you man.

If Sanchez can't do it with the Jets, What makes you think that he can for the Chiefs. I question how much of an upgrade he would be over Cassel if any.

Matt Flynn personally I did not get the chance to see much of this player but from reports from other Chiefs fans he is someone we need to be looking at strongly

After being overpaid  by Seattle on the strength of ONE GAME for Green Bay, Flynn watched as a rookie took his starting job.  Let's not import anyone else's trash.  Draft a QB and start with a blank canvas.

Alex Smith, and draft a QB at some point (prefer by round 3). Draft Dee Milliner, and Tavon Austin!

Alex is already requesting to be released prior to FA. If this is the case I say the Chiefs persue him and draft a QB in the 2nd or even 3rd round. Although Smith is no Manning, Bree's or Rodgers. He has proven he has the talent to win and even take a team to the playoffs.  

  GO Chiefs!!!!!!!!

Michael Vick has until Feb. 6th to be released or he will be recieving a pretty hefty sum of money from the Eagles. So we should know on or before Feb. 6th if Foles will become available. I would love for them to keep Vick so it would open up Foles for a trade.

GO CHIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe what I've been hearing on these boards lately in regards to our QB situation and how we address it. Alex Smith??? Are you guys serious? Did you see his career before Harbaugh came into the organization? The guy has below average arm strength and no upside, the consumate game manager. We have one of those already in Matt Cassel, and Cassel's 2010 season was about as good as it can get for a game managing QB. Matt Flynn lost his job to a damn rookie after signing a huge unwarrented contract, not to mention he was a marginal prospect at best coming out of college. Nick Foles isn't going anywhere as Mick Vick won't stick around in Philly. You can forget Kirk Cousins, he's too cheap for Washington to part with and is important insurance given RG III's knee injury and playing style. I won't even mention Flacco as the Ravens would face mutiny if they let him get away. The problems I see on the offensive side of the ball are simple:

#1: Our QB's are pathetic, nuff said
#2: Our OL is horrible in pass protection
#3: Our WR's lack big play ability, no speed to stretch a defense
#4: Our offensive scheme lacks imagination

We've already solved number 4 bringing in Reid and company. While I agree taking Geno Smith at #1 might be too high there's no doubt QB is our biggest need. For all the smack talk I'm hearing about why he's not worth the #1 pick I find it funny you guys are willing to settle for far worse prospects later on in the draft. If we can trade down to a comfortable position to safely select Smith or Barkley while adding an additional draft pick so be it, if not than we have to go all-in and take Smith at 1. I like Joekel (OT, Texas A&M) at 1 but let's face it, Albert isn't gonna move to Guard and the franchise isn't gonna pay him LT money to do so. I say go with Smith at 1 and let him take his lumps. With that out of the way early we can address the OL, drafting for depth. I think we can make a play at WR in free-agency, I'd love to see Mike Wallace burning the outside routes stretching the defense and opening things up for our running game. As much as love DBowe he is not an elite type WR and won't be worth the contract he demands. Enough of my ranting, just thought I'd throw my thought into the mix.

I'm not saying A Smith is the long term answer. Personally I want Foles but like you said He may not be an option. We will know more this time next week when the Eagles decide to either release or keep Vick to a sizeable contract. Either way you look at it we need a minimum of 2 QB's. I personally do not see any of our QB's as even back up caliber, unless Stanzi steps up or MR. trick shoot suprises us all. I say we draft a QB either 1st or second round but still need a quality veteran QB. The above mentioned are the best options for a veteran at least to my knowledge. What if we draft Geno at #1 and he does not pan out where are we at then? What if Geno needs a year or to to develope into the Elite QB we all want. I do not see the QB frenzy during the draft like we had last year. If the Chiefs feel one QB has a sizeable advantage over the others in the draft we need to jump on him. If the Chiefs Feel there is very little advantage amongst the top 5 or 6 QB's and we can acquire one with our 2nd pick in round 2 I would no be opposed to that either. If we could trade back to the 5-7 pick and still get Geno or whom the Chiefs feel is the best QB in the draft I say go for it. The Chiefs need to just grow a pair and make it happen.

I think that Matt Barkley is still the best option if he falls into our hands at the top of the second round. I still very strongly believe that Matt Barkley is the best QB in this draft and a I draw my opinion from watching the film. I dont get the Wilson fans his film stinks. Geno has some great numbers but scrutinizing the film I see a guy that checks down way too much for my taste. He is still a good QB prospect, the real question is; is there a QB in this draft that we believe can be as good or better than Matt Ryan? That is the bar we should be setting not Luck, RG 3 or Stafford. Is there a Matt Ryan or Sam Bradford in this draft? I believe there is and his name is Matt Barkley.

I agree that if we use the 1st overall pick then it should be Joekel, or Jarvis (pass rusher from Georgia). I personally think that we can land Jarvis with the first pick then if Barkley falls we can swoop in and take him with the 2nd round pick or use the 2nd round pick and one of the compensatory picks we recieved to move up into the first round and take Barkley. In the third round I think we should be targeting UCLA TE Fauria. Moeaki is totally un-reliable and better suited to be a backup in the NFL.

As far as veterans go I would be targetting Alex Smith. Im not a fan of any of the other guys, if Philly wants to give away Foley so be it but trading for him? No. Other QB's that could be serviceable here in my opinion are TJ Yates, Sean Hill and Matt Moore. I think all three are better than the guys we started last year. Carson Palmer is a possibility as a stopgap player.

Oh yeah they better cut Stanzi or play him I am sick of waiting on them to put this guy in the game. How can you justify three years of salary and 0 starts on a team as QB needy as the Chiefs? Bewildering!

 

This thread in its entirety is a great example of just what a mess this is. Literally everyone has a different opinion of every single possible player. Some see Alex Smith as Matt Cassel, others see him as a guy that is finally "getting it" and who took his team to the NFC Championship game last year and then started strong for the NFC representative in the Super Bowl before going down to injury. The same amount of fluctuation exists for Geno Smith, where some think he has great upside, others think he is simply the mediocre best of a bad bunch.

When it comes down to it, the coaching staff will make a decision to pursue who they think they can build a system around. Who knows if this story has any accuracy or if it was just floated out there by Smith's agent but it states that Andy Reid has shown some interest in Alex Smith in the past.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/n
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Who knows. NONE of the options are comfortbale ones where you plug a guy in there and relax.

This is such a hard subject to think about if you are one that seeks a solution. Most everything said is a bandaid, and not a good one, may as well keep Cassel if your going to bring in Alex Smith, who was beat out by a rookie, on a Superbowl team, no thanks. The only far fetched idea that might work, with alot of luck, is Mike Vick. Flacco is going no place that is for sure. Either it is going to suck again this year that position, or something comes up that no one really knows about, like Stanzi is really really good, but Pioli just hated him lol something like that. Or maybe that 4th string QB we got, that does the trick shots, maybe his time has come. Who knows, none of it sounds good, Raiders might cut Carson Palmer for cap space, with the right offensive coord he is good, him and Al Saunders together would be good, like Trent Green and Saunders, JC playing the Priest role.

 big mistake Raiders dumping saunders when Carson came on board 

I guess we won't know until mid March if Vick is going to be released or kept. He had something in his contract that extends the deadline until March before he recieves any money for the upcoming year. I hope they keep him and it frees Foles up. To me he would be our best option.

 GO Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would love for Al Saunders to be back. In my opinion Al Saunders should have been the head coach after Vermeil.

I would love for Al Saunders to be back. In my opinion Al Saunders should have been the head coach after Vermeil

Agreed.  I could never understand the Herm move.  What we acclomplished on Offense under Saunders was remarkable.

The Eagles restructured Vicks contract but sound like they want to keep Nick Foles. 

If I'm going with a QB off of that list, Smith is by far my first...and perhaps only target. However, I don't know if you can compete with a team like Cleveland financially for him if they have their eyes on him as is being reported. It also comes down to whether or not the 49ers do in fact give him his release. They can comfortably afford him within their cap right now. If they are able to trade him, then I guess the question becomes, what are you willing to part with to get him?

If I was going to make a trade for a starter, I might look once again to New England. I don't know if they would be willing to part with Ryan Mallett, or not, but I think I'd find out what it would take if they are willing to deal him. He's sat and learned for a couple of years now, and he's not played very much due to you know who. He did have 1st round talent when they took him in the 3rd or 4th round, but he had other issues. It's just a thought, but he's got the arm you're looking for from a NFL QB. If the price is right, he could be an interesting pickup, not to mention he's fairly local.

I can also see waiting to take a QB in the 2nd round perhaps blowing up in your face. I still believe the Bills will either use their 1st, or trade back up into the bottom of the 1st to get in front of you. Arizona may do the same thing. I believe that as soon as the 1st QB goes off the board, teams that need a QB will begin to panic that the guy they want won't be there when they pick. Dallas is said to be considering drafting a QB, and when Jerry was asked about it he would not rule out using his 1st round pick, depending on who was there. The same is being said about the Texans. There are other teams picking in the mid to late 1st round who would find a few of these QBs very doable at that point, since it's likely they wouldn't get a shot at that kind of QB talent in a normal year. Right now, there may not be any apparent Luck or RGIII, or even a Tannehill among these QBs, but one or more will most likely emerge. It's up to your front office to figure which one or two that is.

I haven't heard much talk about the available FA quarterbacks lately. Usually this time of the year the sports channels are all over FA's and seem to pay more attention to the quarterback position more than others. I've been watching things fairly closely. Has anyone heard and rumors lately?