CELITICS blew it with RONDO

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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 10:24 pm

They shoulda traded him when they had the chance .. YUP .. I was right again.



Can't predict an injury you say?   I have to disagree with that.  The way Rondo constantly lunged to the basket and flopped hard to the ground after contact, it's no wonder he hasn't been injured sooner.


His skinnly frame was due to break down sooner than later with his style of play with no regard for his body on injury.




Coulda had a shot at DeMarcus Cousins ... YUP ... coulda solved that rebounding problem ... coulda had a legit center.



Who woulda played PG .... how bout Kyle Lowry on the cheap?   Yup ... i bet he would fit in quite nicely.



Instead we have an injured Rondo who's gonna take 10 months to a year to heal ... and how long does he last after that.  His elbow almost snapped in half in the playoffs not that long ago as well ... he simply isn't going to hold up and now he's damaged goods.  Who knows how he'll perform seeing as his transition game was his greatest strength.  Such much for that now.


The Celts are screwed now ... thanks for not dumping Rondo when they had the chance ... when his value was at an all time high, even though it was a complete facade.   



                       
SoxCeltsPatsBs
SinceFeb 10, 2007
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 10:28 pm

Celtics ... CELTICS ... CELTICS



Rondo never got better at FTs ... his 3 pt shooting never improved


His short range jumper improved simply because NO ONE covered him 


His end of quarter , half , game play was atrocious often waiting waaay too long to start plays and forcing the ultimate receiver of the pass to short of time to get off a decent shot and havign to force up a desperation shot ... and that's if Rondo didn't have a brain fart and just hold on to the ball himself the entire time.



OHHHH MERCY .. now we're stuck with the lame duck                
SoxCeltsPatsBs
SinceFeb 10, 2007
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 10:30 pm

Don't worry SCPSs, you have The Brazilian Blur ready to step in and pick up the slack!
jefe101
SinceFeb 22, 2008
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 10:34 pm

It's ALL TRUE ... and once Rondo got an EGO and thought he was a superstar he'd force the stats just to maintain the FACADE of an image that he was an elite player.


He could run a solo fast break .. that's about it .. and too bad the team isn't built to run and gun.



Too often Rondo would forget that the TRUE superstars on the team were KG, Paul Pierce, and at the time Ray Allen ... only in their championship year, when Rondo didn't know any better but to pass was he a truly valuable player .. and back then teams didn't figure out yet that they don't have to cover Rondo.



Add to all this his punk attitude bumping into Refs and Rondo's facade status had truly gotten to his head.



ALL THIS pointed to trading him when everyone was DUPED into thinking he was a superstar ... oh well.




CELTS BLEW IT ... now were stuck .. OY VEY!                       
SoxCeltsPatsBs
SinceFeb 10, 2007
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 10:39 pm

"and once Rondo got an EGO and thought he was a superstar he'd force the stats just to maintain the FACADE of an image that he was an elite "   player."



He, by far, was the biggest single reason Allen left Boston. 
TurnuptheHeat
SinceSep 12, 2008
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 10:44 pm

Turnup ... that's probably true as well. BUT .. on that front, Ray Allen wasn't part of the future, so that didn't really bother me that much.


Signing Terry for THREE YEARS to replace him was utterly stupid though.   Now we're stuck with that lug for two more years too.




All this said, I think the Celts can rally and maybe even play BETTER as a team now that Rondo isn't running around all foolish and holding onto the ball too long.


Everyone else will be forced to become more involved, this creating a TEAM concept rather than a facace PG just dishing at the last second to rack up facada assists.



Paul Pierce could play some SG as well .. giving Green more time at SF ... and Bradley can pick up the slack at PG ... and maybe Lee can be more involved as well upping his play with the team too.              
SoxCeltsPatsBs
SinceFeb 10, 2007
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 11:20 pm

I proposed Rondo for DeMarcus Cousins a little over a month ago ... looking at Cousins' numbers lately ... MAN WAS I RIGHT ON 


YUP Cool   
SoxCeltsPatsBs
SinceFeb 10, 2007
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 11:33 pm

wash your mouth out with soap
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that is all 

oh btw if the Celtics wanted to trade rondo they still could... look what the Lakers bent over BACKwards for a guy who just had spinal surgery....


just sayin 
nighthawk101
SinceDec 5, 2012
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CELTICS blew it with RONDO

January 28, 2013 11:38 pm

3 points and 2 rebounds and 4 assists against a legit core of bigs in denver....?

im not denying he has talent but rondo won a ring and single handidly (literally with one arm) beat the Heat in a playoff game.

if i had to chose the headache at the moment id chose rondo... although if he bumps a few more reffs i think ill say go with cousins id much rather see danny try and get some value out of pierce and keep rondo 
nighthawk101
SinceDec 5, 2012
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

January 29, 2013 1:57 am

As it has already been pointed out there is no way to say when a player is going to get injured except for a physical player like Blake Griffin. I personally think Griffin is an injury waiting to happen the way he plays and Rondo has played well over the years, but if I was the Celtics, I would see If I could pick up Greg Oden and Iverson. Both could be some good pick ups even though they are risky

True_Laker_Fan
SinceOct 23, 2008
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 1, 2013 1:11 am

so those great Kings players didnt do much against the supposed washed up Celtics ... im good with not getting cousins the guy isnt as good as he thinks he is
nighthawk101
SinceDec 5, 2012
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 1, 2013 3:00 am

They shoulda traded him when they had the chance .. YUP .. I was right again.



Can't predict an injury you say?   I have to disagree with that.  The way Rondo constantly lunged to the basket and flopped hard to the ground after contact, it's no wonder he hasn't been injured sooner.




Were you predicting an injury when you were saying they should have traded him?  If not, and you were saying they should have traded him for a different reason then you should step up off your little pedestal there.
Zagstuh
SinceDec 12, 2006
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 1, 2013 7:55 am

Wow I'm a little shocked by your post SoxCeltsPatsBs, I dont get your infatuation with Cousins, actually I do.  I have said it before and you never answered me so I assumed I was right.  Cousins is on your fantasy team, so you love his inflated numbers. 
Great players make those around them better, so why does Sacramento stink so bad?  Please don't give me the coaching and front office problems. 
It is so easy to think Cousins is great, and I'm not disputing he has talent, but he plays on a team, that gets blown out a lot.  A team that doesnt win on a consistent basis.  Do you realize how many players on bad teams put up good numbers?  It is because many times these teams that're blowing out the Kings, are using their second units, so Demarcus gets a lot of run, because he is playing against the second unit of opposing teams.  You will probably use the excuse he has no one around him, well great players take their teams to a higher record.  Demarcus has not done that.  The Kings are the exact same team they have been for years, If Demarcus was this great talent, why are the Kings not at least battling for the 8th seed/
In the last week or so Cousins has also struggled, averging a whopping 10 points, and 5 rebounds, wow 5 rebounds.  As you know one of those games was against the Celts, where he had 6 boards.  Now as many have complained about the Celts reboundng troubles, how does Cousins only have 6 rebounds against one of the weakest rebounding teams in the NBA?
Your other arguement of Rondo getting hurt for his style of play is ludicrous.  So you must like players that don't dive for loose balls on the floor, don't run after a ball going out of bounds to try and save it.  A player who takes the ball to the hole?  What that tells me is that you must not have been a big fan of LARRY BIRD. 
The Celtics were screwed before Rondo was hurt,
Hondo 8 Rings
SinceNov 13, 2012
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 1, 2013 6:34 pm

Sorry to disappoint Hondo .. but I don't participate in fantasy sports for basketball or any sport for that matter.  In fact, i'm probably one of the most ANTI-FANTASY sports guys on here.



As for Cousins not being on a winning team .. that's on the entire TEAM .. NOT just him.  Put him on a team with a winning attitude and I think he'd flourish even more.


His rebounding would help tremendously .. and he'd be a legit scoring option in the middle as well, soemthing we haven't seen in a long time.


He didn't rebound well against the C's .. which was surprising, seemed like the whole Sacramento team was out of sync that night .. and the C's were playing very well AS A TEAM with great distribution of the ball AS A TEAM .. WHAT A DIFFERENCE when everyone is involved huh!!! 



As players for that dive to get loose balls .. sure that's great, I loved wen Bird did it .. but he wasn't doing that on every other play ... he paced himself in games and knew when to put it all on the line in the clutch and when the game was on the line.  Bird also had a large frame and could take a lot of punishment till the latter years when it finally caught up to him .. but that was after he LEAD his team to multiple championships AND made everyone better around him.


Rondo on the other hand is on the ground literally every other play usually lunging at the basket in an awkward manner.   Constantly taking hits like that to a small frame will catch up to you.  And if he was making everyone around him better, that would be great too, but most of these plays were of the individual variety.  


Rondo's stats are a facade ... sorry .. shoulda traded him when we had the chance.        
SoxCeltsPatsBs
SinceFeb 10, 2007
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 1, 2013 6:35 pm

BTW .. did you realize that Rondo was on pace for 300 TURNOVERS!!!   YIKES!!!!


He was actually regressing  Surprised  
SoxCeltsPatsBs
SinceFeb 10, 2007
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 1, 2013 10:58 pm

Rondo is worth more than both of those players you mentioned.
ATKOOL
SinceMay 6, 2009
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 2, 2013 8:03 am

Rondo wasn't regressing, he was being asked to do more.  with older players.  Cousins is the last player I want in Boston.  He couldn't dominate KG, Wilcox, and Collins.   Just how good is he?  Rondo took over playoff games.  Do you remember the playoffs last year? He was the Celtics best player. He is the reason they pushed the Heat to the brink (ok KG helped).  This is a different Celtics team with a veteran bench that likes the up tempo game. Ball motion (and player motion) can camaflage the lack of a true point guard. <br />Make fun of Barbosa all you want, but he is starting to fit into this Celtic team. The man will score, put him with the Jet, Green, Wilcox and ......  and they will score. 

The Swamp Rat
SinceOct 2, 2008
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 2, 2013 9:15 am

As for Cousins not being on a winning team .. that's on the entire TEAM .. NOT just him.  Put him on a team with a winning attitude and I think he'd flourish even more.
Why isnt Cousins able to lift this team higher?  Great players turn their teams around.  Do you remember what the Celtics record was before BIRD? The Celtics were hardly a winning organization.  Boston has a winning attitude?  What year, not this one.

Do you follow the NBA?  As much as I hope Im wrong, anytime a team loses a player to injury, the rest of the team steps up.  It is very common.  Well some fans get all caught up in the current winning streak, the truth is this team will eventually start to struggle again.  KG and Pierce are having to do way too much now.  I also compare this phenomana to when a  team fires their coach, the team usually steps up their game and goes a winning streak, but then it always happens, then they show what they were before. 

Cousins should be able to create a winning atmosphere with his play, if he is as great as you claim.  Sacramento should be getting better every year, they are not.  This speaks volumes about him.

You never answered the question of Cousins getting good numbers because he plays in a lot of one-sided games.  Many of the good teams play their best players in  limited minutes against the Kings
Hondo 8 Rings
SinceNov 13, 2012
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 2, 2013 6:16 pm

Do you follow the NBA?  As much as I hope Im wrong, anytime a team loses a player to injury, the rest of the team steps up.  It is very common. 



Teams step up and play motivated for a stretch often but they do not get better overall.  The guys who step in to fill the roles of the guy that got hurt are not as good as the guy who got was in most cases (probably 9 times out of 10).  Ultimately, the adrenaline rush from trying to step up when the guy gets hurt fades and the other teams have a better scouting report on whoever is filling the roles for the hurt guy and the team does not do as well.  But there can be a short term impact.  I will give you that.


Cousins should be able to create a winning atmosphere with his play, if he is as great as you claim.  



He is good but immature.  Mature young guys like Magic and Bird were can be that kind of a leader.  Cousins can't and actually most young guys can't either even when they are talented.  Cousins is the type of guy who still has to learn a lot and he is not going to learn on a team with a losing record and any veteran that is basically a "so-so" veteran.  He needs to be under the wing of some more proven veterans and he will learn how to be a better player and teammate.  With that said, he is not someone I would trade Rondo straight up for.  Maybe now I would make that trade with the injury but even that I am not so certain about. 
Zagstuh
SinceDec 12, 2006
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CELITICS blew it with RONDO

February 2, 2013 6:22 pm

Cousins should be able to create a winning atmosphere with his play, if he is as great as you claim.  Sacramento should be getting better every year, they are not.  This speaks volumes about him.



You could put some of this on Cousins but I would put a lot more on the ownership and management.  Basically their owners are selling the team.  Maloof are worried more about their casino woes and money issues than the team and it has shown in the majority of their personnel moves.  Case in point the aforementioned ridiculous contracts for Thornton and Thompson.  Too bad for Sacramento that this team will be headed to Seattle but now that they have a new owner who will undoubtedly give a f-- the team will ultimately get better--with or without Cousins.
Zagstuh
SinceDec 12, 2006