Yum! Center is a financial disaster

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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

January 31, 2013 1:12 pm

It’s time to do something about the Yum Center. Denis Frankenberger, the former president and CEO of Advance Machinery Co., released [a 38-page study on the arena], which he calls a “financial albatross.” Why? The lease between the Louisville Arena Authority and the University of Louisville
has created a choke hold on the arena’s ability to turn a profit. Frankenberger says the arena is over $800 million in debt, and costs $92,000 per day to operate.

Here is a breakdown of his findings from [InsiderLouisville.com]:

• Lost more than $50,000 per day during 2011

• Lost more than $37,000 per day during 2012

• For each UofL men’s game the Arena Authority incurred a $33,235 loss

• For each women’s game the Arena Authority incurred a $87,624 loss

• For each “Other UofL sponsored event” the Arena Authority incurred a $87,624 loss

• For 2011, Frankenberger calculates an $18 million loss.



Man!! You have to sell A LOT of Chalupas, or Pepperoni Lover's Pizzas, or buckets upon buckets of KFC just to even make a dent in the financial bleeding of that place.

uksmithfan
SinceSep 26, 2008
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

January 31, 2013 2:06 pm

I agree that the original lease agreement should have been different but if you are going to believe everything Frankenweiner has to say about it then you are as big of a loud mouth as he is. He was a successful business man who sold his business to GE Capital and now is in everybody else's business.

"For the record, we scanned Frakenberger’s math and found some of his calculations hard to follow, particularly in how actual TIF revenues factor into his projections. But [as wrote earlier this month,] I find most of the accountancy around the arena issue muddled at best." ...direct quote from Terry Boyd the author.

Other projections have been made that the arena will actually turn over 1 million dollars profit for 2013. It's strongly believed that has to do with the fact that now the Kentucky Fair Board is no longer in charge. By the way that is one of the most currupt and inept organizations in our entire state. It's believed that they were syphoning off profits from the arena to line their own pockets and and not doing a very good job of controlling interests and seeking future events for the Yum! Center. It was almost blatantly obvious that the Kentucky Fair Board was in over their heads. Just take a look at what has happened with their own interests. Now that they no longer have control over the Yum! Center they shifted focus back to resurrecting the abandonned ghost town Kentucky Kingdom. They had no business being a part of the new arena.

We will see what happens but how about you turn your eyes on your own university and the debt they have on their hands. So how much is Cal making this year for the job he's doing? What about the new locker rooms at the Rupp Arena or the renovations being talked about for the Commenwealth stadium, or the Stoops 11 million pay over the next 5 years? How about the 87 million loaned from the UK academics to UK healthcare to cover the cash short fall? Where will all of that money be recouped? Rising tuition costs and our state taxes is where.

So make sure you check yourself before selling the Yum! Center as some big eye sore when there is an even bigger one down the road in Lexington. The Yum! center has helped bring downtown Louisville back to life as a place to visit and helped breath in a lot more revenue for our state. Yeah it might not be selling itself as a big profitable business yet but it's only in it's 3rd freakin year. It's already garnered more attention positive attention to our state and city than anything we have seen in decades.

CardSmack29
SinceSep 28, 2012
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

January 31, 2013 4:05 pm

The courier reported a $650,000 profit recorded for the second calendar year for the Yum. The bogus info, although looking real was a word document made up and originally posted on the UK site. UL's athletic dept reported another high of 89 million with another 40 million basketball take. This is almost 15 million more than any other school. This bogus report was taken from a group that was pushing for an NBA team in Louisville and almost all numbers altered.. All debt payment was paid in full and the original Courier article mentioned that concert monies were well ahead of projections in both of the first two years. The bogus report also stated that each UL game resulted in losses when in actuality UL nets over a million dollars a game. The only dissapointment was the local business has not had the increase proposed revenues. If the Yum group made money, and UL made money and the bond was paid in full, where is the loss?
Briggsky
SinceMar 4, 2011
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

January 31, 2013 7:24 pm

You tell 'em Smitty! We got our Big Blew Caves. Man that white guy we got sure is a godsend, ain't he ?
GO BIG BLEW !!!
KYHILLJACK
SinceMar 25, 2012
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

January 31, 2013 7:31 pm

The bogus report also stated that each UL game resulted in losses when in actuality UL nets over a million dollars a game.
I have no idea if the report is correct or not, but what you said here doesn't really make much sense.

UofL could make a billion dollars a game, but it doesn't mean that the arena actually turned a profit.  UofL doesn't own the arena do they?

  
TrollyMcTroller
SinceMay 31, 2011
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 1, 2013 8:45 am

Your exactly right Trolly. UofL does not own the Yum! Center. They do have controlling interest in it though so UofL games have first preference of dates but after the basketball season is over it pretty much is an open gym for the city....although I can almost guarantee you that uk will never have a game there like they did at Freedom Hall once a year because the Kentucky Fair board is not in control. THAT is a thing of beauty right there haha.

This attempt at blasting UofL and the Yum! Center was a failure. The Yum! Center is actually going to turn a profit this year which completely contradicts this guys "report". The numbers have been off based on original projections but not what this guy is saying, as I pointed out in my earlier post. Nothing good was coming from the Kentucky Fair board running things and thank god they got their walking papers. What's being missed in all of these reports is how much the arena has stimulated our local economy because of the concerts being brought in bringing more visitors to Louisville. Also, several new businesses have opened up since the arena was completed which keeps more people downtown and spending money. There is so much new life downtown it's amazing. I work literally one block from the arena and have watched the city grow around us and it continues to grow with Whiskey Row being developed. The arena is amazing and has done wonderful things for our city. So the risk was worth it and the city is better for it.

CardSmack29
SinceSep 28, 2012
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 1, 2013 5:58 pm

I think the Yum Center needs to host 4 Pacers regular season home games each year.

What do you L'ville area fans think of that idea?

I live just north of Indianapolis but I go to Louisville from time to time for work and each time I drive by the Yum Center I think it would be great to host a few Pacers games there.

 
DaleC
SinceMar 18, 2007
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 2, 2013 11:42 am

The Yum Center will not make a profit this year, next year, or probably at least a few more years to come if ever. This was expected. The arena was an investment, like in most cities, prepared to be it's city's "loss leader" with the anticipation of stimulated growth and economy from it's development. Several new restaurants and other businesses have sprung up, bringing in more new jobs, and in turn, more taxes raised for the city. There is a"debt reserve" of 15 million dollars that was established with the sole purpose to help fund the operating costs each year, if it is needed. Once the debt reserve has expired, a AAA insurer (Allied Assurance, I believe) must step in and cover the losses to cover the bond holders. This is not and was not a surprise, as this was planned for. Again, the purpose of the arena was not to profit from it directly, but indirectly. This is the case with the majority of arenas around the country. Very few, if any, turn a profit from operating the arena directly.
Charger Pride
SinceNov 20, 2006
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 2, 2013 11:48 am

CardSmack, ever since the Yum Center opened, UK HAS played a game there EVERY season. Against UL in 2010/2011, against WKU 2011/2012, and this year against UL.
Charger Pride
SinceNov 20, 2006
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 2, 2013 3:25 pm

The only reason they played there in 2012 is because the NCAA Tourney was there.   The thought is that they will NO LONGER get to have a "yearly game" in Louisville like before --  if they do they must continue to use FH, which they don't want so Cal cancelled the annual Louisville location for a game -- after decades of doing it for fans.   But then it's all about Cal, not the fans of UK.
uldn
SinceNov 2, 2006
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 2, 2013 3:25 pm

The only reason they played there in 2012 is because the NCAA Tourney was there.   The thought is that they will NO LONGER get to have a "yearly game" in Louisville like before --  if they do they must continue to use FH, which they don't want so Cal cancelled the annual Louisville location for a game -- after decades of doing it for fans.   But then it's all about Cal, not the fans of UK.

uldn
SinceNov 2, 2006
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 2, 2013 3:26 pm

Sorry for the double post -- it popped an error message
uldn
SinceNov 2, 2006
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 2, 2013 5:32 pm

My question is this. If alcohol is served at the Yum, being a Big East conference, will they still be able to serve alcohol if they become an ACC team?
E-RUPP-T1
SinceFeb 15, 2010
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 2, 2013 6:28 pm

Fans that live in Jefferson County, such as myself, can make the hour drive to Lexington to watch the cats play. Hardly a road trip by any stretch. And if Freedom Hall wasn't on the verge of collapsing, then I'm sure Cal would make it a priority to schedule a game there again.
Charger Pride
SinceNov 20, 2006
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 3, 2013 2:42 pm

A uk fan starting a thread about the Louisville bball arena losing $. Obsessed much? How bout you worry about your own team?
ULcards5o2
SinceOct 31, 2011
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 5, 2013 4:45 pm

Priceless..
Proud Card
SinceNov 7, 2006
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 7, 2013 2:26 pm

UKSMITH didn't go to UK but Northern Kentucky which just went division 1 this year. He is just a blow hard know it all.
shotok
SinceJan 17, 2012
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Yum! Center is a financial disaster

February 7, 2013 3:01 pm

No, because UK didn't offer an aviation program, unlike Northern Kentucky University. My wife and brother DID go to UK.

As for being a blow hard know it all.....yes, I am in some instances, but not here. This was simply a "copy and paste" about the situation the consultant found. But, it sure ruffled a few feathers of those who ARE "blow hard know it alls".
uksmithfan
SinceSep 26, 2008