Missouri????

I wouldn't mind running in to Mizzou in the tourney. Borrowed from phog.net: a.) During the time period specified, our former 'rivals' in Columbia checked in with nine -- nine -- first round exits -- 1986, 1987, 1988, 1990, 1993, 1998, 2000, 2011, and, of course, 2012. b.) Which means that every one of their coaches during this time -- Norm, Quin, Mike and Frank -- contributed to this impressive bit of history. c.) The above cited seasons denote, of course, NCAA Tournament first round exits. We would be remiss if we did not also cite from the pages of missouri basketball history the years 1985, 1998, 2004 and 2005. Which denote first round exits from the NIT. That's right. The NIT. d.) If we look at those 28 years in which the NCAA Tournament has included a field of 64 schools, and factor in the information from point 'a', above, it would seem to say that our friends in Columbia have a first round NCAA Tournament exit on their resume nearly one third of the time.  e.) But if you factor in the years 1997, 2006, 2007, and 2008 -- when old mizzou was not invited to the field of 64 -- as well as 1991 -- when they couldn't participate due to being on probation -- the percentage would be closer to 40%. That is nearly half of their participation in this event marked with a first round exit. f.) The record of 16 wins, 18 losses, zero Final Fours, zero Finals, and zero Titles is not accurate. The 18 losses, zero Final Fours, Zero Finals, and Zero Titles part of it is. The 16 wins is not. Three of those need to be deducted. Because their three Tournament victories from 1994 were officially striped from the record by the NCAA due to Jevon Crudup's being cited as an ineligible player.

"We don't have a guard," Self said despondently. "We don't have a point guard."

Mizzou had it's full lineup for only the 3rd game all year yesterday.  They took care of business.  They were without Bell Wednesday night, who scored about 25 Saturday, and Bowers wasn't up to game speed, nor did he have much stamina in that game.  The yesterday game was never in doubt.  Mizzou is a top 15 team despite the loss, and maybe top 10.  We shall see how the rest of the season turns out.

They....played.... AUBURN. One of the worst teams in any Big 6 conference. In fact, from the Big 10, Big East, ACC, Big 12, Mountain West, Missouri Valley, Pac 12, A-10, only TCU has a lower RPI than Auburn and Mississippi State in the SEC. So congrats...

Hey TwoCoach..... that may be correct, but you lost AT HOME.    I also thought that Kansas had the best defense in all of college basketball?   How many did Oklahoma State drop on you Saturday?

HAHAHA..... Mizzou will be fine, really looking to a NCAA tourney matchup with the Jayhawks.  

Competitive...interesting choice of words.  My son's 5 yr old basketball team is competitive in their league, but they are 5, they suck at basketball.  

Missouri has definitely disappointed, but the whole reason the league is competitive is because they are all playing for 2nd place and most teams are below average.  How can a league be competitive if its best team can't even get someone to hang with them for a half, let alone a whole game?    

And just to maintain as little bias as possible, the Big Ten was competitive (by your definition) in football this year.  Just sayin.  Guess you are saying SEC basketball = B1G Football.  To that, I can agree.     

How many did Oklahoma State drop on you Saturday

2 More than a Florida squad playing with their bakkups for 10mins against Mizzou...but we won't mention how many YOU scored!  Mizzou will be fine!?

I understand you work with what you have...but to trade barbs with KU like your basketball history has MATTERED, is plain delusional...to go from one conference, where you're a 2nd class citizen...to another where its shaping up for more of the same, is laughable and pathetic. Last year, your best team in over a decade, losing to Norfolk St....Fuggedaboutit!

"Hey TwoCoach..... that may be correct, but you lost AT HOME.    I also thought that Kansas had the best defense in all of college basketball?   How many did Oklahoma State drop on you Saturday?"

More than they should been allowed. Bad game for Kansas, no doubt about it. The team came out flat, lazy and disinterested and were unable to dig out of the hole that their laziness dug for themselves. Hopefully this will be a bit of a wake up call for them. I can tell why Bill Self recruited Marcus Smart so hard. 

"HAHAHA..... Mizzou will be fine, really looking to a NCAA tourney matchup with the Jayhawks. "

I look forward to it. Kind of a bummer that Mizzou won't be playing in Kansas City the first two rounds. I got my tickets and was hoping to watch the trifecta of two KU wins and a Mizzou first round loss again like last year. Of course, a Mizzou loss in the first round won't be an upset this year...

Mizzou was without their best player at Florida.  I didn't get to watch the game, but I seem to recall a similar blowout loss to Ar-kansas one year.  We finished okay that year.

TWOCOACH, do you still have those tickets for the regional that will soon be hosting Michigan :)    Not Kansas my friend...although maybe it'll be Mizzou vs. Kansas in a #7 vs #10 matchup!    What is going on with college basketball this year?  Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina....all look pedestrian to me!    I believe it Michigan State, Indiana, Florida, and a surprise mid-major as a final 4.

What is going on with college basketball this year?  Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina....all look pedestrian to me!    I believe it Michigan State, Indiana, Florida, and a surprise mid-major as a final 4.

Hmm. UK, KU and UNC always do well in the tourney so don't know what you are talking about there. Kansas is a lot better than you give them credit for. Michigan State has no shot at the Final 4. They'll be lucky to get out of the second round.

Indiana and Florida are both for real, though. Look out. 

I wouldn't mind running in to Mizzou in the tourney. Borrowed from phog.net: a.) During the time period specified, our former 'rivals' in Columbia checked in with nine -- nine -- first round exits -- 1986, 1987, 1988, 1990, 1993, 1998, 2000, 2011, and, of course, 2012. b.) Which means that every one of their coaches during this time -- Norm, Quin, Mike and Frank -- contributed to this impressive bit of history. c.) The above cited seasons denote, of course, NCAA Tournament first round exits. We would be remiss if we did not also cite from the pages of missouri basketball history the years 1985, 1998, 2004 and 2005. Which denote first round exits from the NIT. That's right. The NIT. d.) If we look at those 28 years in which the NCAA Tournament has included a field of 64 schools, and factor in the information from point 'a', above, it would seem to say that our friends in Columbia have a first round NCAA Tournament exit on their resume nearly one third of the time.  e.) But if you factor in the years 1997, 2006, 2007, and 2008 -- when old mizzou was not invited to the field of 64 -- as well as 1991 -- when they couldn't participate due to being on probation -- the percentage would be closer to 40%. That is nearly half of their participation in this event marked with a first round exit. f.) The record of 16 wins, 18 losses, zero Final Fours, zero Finals, and zero Titles is not accurate. The 18 losses, zero Final Fours, Zero Finals, and Zero Titles part of it is. The 16 wins is not. Three of those need to be deducted. Because their three Tournament victories from 1994 were officially striped from the record by the NCAA due to Jevon Crudup's being cited as an ineligible player.

What did you say? You really expect someone to figure out that blob of crap? Seriously, white spaces really do increase readership.

only TCU has a lower RPI than Auburn and Mississippi State in the SEC. So congrats...

OUCH! Set yourself up on this one!

"OUCH! Set yourself up on this one! "

Yeah, what a brutal week, not just for Kansas but for every ranked team that went on the road. KU is a mess right now. Bill Self will be earning his paycheck for sure here in the next few days .We'll see if they can get right in some form before tomorrow's game @Oklahoma. That will not be an easy game by any means and KU will be playing to keep their advantage in the Big 12 with the K-State game coming up on Monday. Gut check time...

how is mizzu still even close to t25? Good god they are bad.

Derrin's original post is really close to what is happening.  If Vegas gets it right, Mizzou will end up with 8-9 losses by season end.  That can't spell good news, I still think a 9 loss mizzou gets into the tourney, but as at best a 9 seed (assuming they lose 9).  As much as I hate mizzou, I never thought they would lose 6 games, and now it looks like they will best case lose 7-8.

A few of my co-workers who are both very smart, and very humble mizzou fans(yes they do exist), think that this is at best a 7 seed mizzou team, and at worst, a number 1 seed.. in the NIT.

So question to mizzou fans, and really anyone:  If a worst case scenario happens, and mizzou loses 10 games, do you think you make the tourney?  What is a realistic best case scenario for you? 

They sure put it to Ole Miss today. At home.
Makes me wonder if there is a solid road team out there in CBB land and if that team shouldn't be the team to look for come tourney time.