Jed Lowrie traded to A's

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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 4, 2013 6:11 pm

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi report that the Athletics have acquired Jed Lowrie from the Astros as part of a five-player trade.

Lowrie will head to Oakland along with right-hander Fernando Rodriguez while first baseman Chris Carter, right-hander Brad Peacock and minor league catcher Max Stassi are headed to Houston. While it's a solid move by the Athletics, Lowrie's power production could take a real hit playing half his games in O.co Coliseum. Source: [Ken Rosenthal on Twitter ]Feb 4 - 6:01 PM
Johnny Mackey
SinceFeb 3, 2013
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 4, 2013 6:21 pm

HUGE MISTAKE by Oakland.<br /><br />Chris Carter hits 40 homers in Houston. Guaranteed. Not to mention, Peacock and Stassi are top prospects. dumb move. 

Banned Poster
SinceNov 14, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 4, 2013 6:35 pm

Not sure I'd refer to Stassi as a huge prospect, he's closer to a slightly above average prospect.

I'm more confused with where Oakland will pay Lowrie.  After acquiring Nakajima and Sizemore coming back from injury, will Lowrie take SS from Nakajima or 3B from Sizemore?  Maybe Oakland will get wise and package one in a deal for a real first baseman.

As for Oakland, nabbing Chris Carter and Brad Peacock is a very nice move.  Carter provides quite a bit of pop potential and Peacock looks like he could develop into a closer in the future. 
sjnemeth3
SinceFeb 7, 2007
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 4, 2013 6:42 pm

Maybe Oakland will get wise and package one in a deal for a real first baseman.
Putting WAY too much faith in Brandon Moss.

The Carter/Moss platoon was one of the most affective platoons in the game last year.

Banned Poster
SinceNov 14, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 4, 2013 6:46 pm

 Maybe Oakland will get wise and package one in a deal for a real first baseman.



With what money?  For me and my reality, "real" players cost money, BIG money.  And, the A's continue to show that they have no interest in paying anyone big money to come to play for them.

As such, they will likely continue to get by, and even thrive, on the dirt cheap.
bigdmgr
SinceAug 15, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 4, 2013 8:24 pm

Since when did Lowrie have power production?
redseat
SinceOct 19, 2007
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 5, 2013 12:50 am

Chris Carter hits 40 homers in Houston. Guaranteed. Not to mention, Peacock and Stassi are top prospects. dumb move.

maybe, but with a .230 AVG and 200+ K's he will be another Mark Reynolds (minus the steals of course)... Peacock is a year removed from his "top prospect" title, and looks more like a servicable 3 or 4 than a frontline guy, and in hindsight, Stassi's fate was sealed with the addition of Jaso.  We have catching depth, and Stassi was only in Stockton last year; a lot can happen in those 73 miles..

I saw how pissed you were on our page and I don't quite get it... with both Weeks and Nakajima being giant questionmarks, and 3B not quite settled, I don't see how losing a platooning 1B for a utility infielder is a huge mistake.

I think the A's filled a need in this deal, may have slightly overpaid, but both teams got what they wanted... Beane wins more often than he loses, I think you have to let this one play out.

Playing to "win now" in Oakland definitely..

I'm neither thrilled, nor pissed... honestly, I think this is a sign of a 1B aquisition to come. Interested to see the opening day roster-


BasebalJunkE
SinceJun 7, 2007
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 5, 2013 10:21 am

A JunkE sighting?


It must be getting close to baseball season again.
bigdmgr
SinceAug 15, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 5, 2013 5:43 pm

maybe, but with a .230 AVG and 200+ K's he will be another Mark Reynolds (minus the steals of course)...
He was batting .270 until late in the year when it dropped to .240. Meanwhile, the platoon was odd. Carter HAS ALWAYS hit right handers better than lefties, but the A's only put him out there against lefties. You have to figure that 2/3 of his at bats will come against righties as there are more of them in the league.

Peacock is a year removed from his "top prospect" title, and looks more like a servicable 3 or 4 than a frontline guy
Inflated pitching numbers in the PCL don't mean much. His stuff is still good. Quite frankly, I would have a hard time trading one of these three guys for Lowrie and yet Beane trades all three. Where is our pitching depth now. We have Straily. Gray isn't ready yet. If one of our starters gets hurt (it's going to happen) or if Fatty Colon isn't the same pitcher without PED', what do we do? 

Stassi's fate was sealed with the addition of Jaso.
No way. Jaso is only a platoon player and Stassi is only 21, has 25-30 HR power (over a full year)and plays good defense. He is still 2 years away from the bigs. 

 I think this is a sign of a 1B aquisition to come. 
I think this is a sign that Daric Barton will make the opening day roster. Help me god.
Banned Poster
SinceNov 14, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 5, 2013 5:48 pm

Another reason I'm pissed is because Beane doesn't wait for talent to develop. Carter changed our season last year when he stepped in for Barton. He easily slugged over .500 and the Carter/Moss platoon combined to be more effective than the Angels signing of Albert Pujols. Name a player on our team we developed through our farm system?

Only one I can think of is Doolittle.

-Reddick already had his few mediocre seasons in Boston
-Cespedes was an international free agent
-Moss was a free agent
-Smith traded for
-etc....

Beane can ONLY develop pitchers and he trades away the players with promise. Carlos Gonzalez should never have been a Rockie and Chris Carter should never have been an Astro. This trade accomplishes nothing and does not fill a void.  
Banned Poster
SinceNov 14, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 5, 2013 7:06 pm

Banned - Does Billy think he gets "the most" out of the players and then trade them away and tries to restart again?  Or is he just eager to develop talent and let other teams pick him apart?  I get they don't have as much money as the Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers etc but there has to be a reason as to why he doesn't keep players.
redseat
SinceOct 19, 2007
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 5, 2013 7:23 pm

B.P,

Following your last post, not surprisingly, I see it is still difficult to be an A's fan.  And, because of the reason you stated, it is different for you/A's fans, as you are dealing with an issue that most teams do not have to, and are doing so not just every few years, and not even every year, but with roster and player changes seemingly from month to month.

It is like he is playing a lot of high stakes poker, winning some hands, losing others, but never with a mind or eye to any sort of "end game".


That has to suck.
bigdmgr
SinceAug 15, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 6, 2013 12:16 am

Banned - Does Billy think he gets "the most" out of the players and then trade them away and tries to restart again?
I don't think so. Not here at least. I think he's going for it all, but costing the future of the team.

He restarts and does a firesale when he doesn't think he has a chance to win the World Series and when his farm is depleted. That's what he did last year with Cahill, Gio, and Bailey. However, Reddick turned out better than expected, the pitching developed quicker (Griffin, Straily, and Parker were in the minors to start the year), and he caught lightning in a bottle with Brandon Moss

The main problem I see is he can't develop hitters. He trades them away too soon because he is impatient. When was the last good hitter developed in Oakland's farm? I would probably say Nick Swisher. Before that?.....Eric Chavez? It's crazy. 

Banned Poster
SinceNov 14, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 6, 2013 4:43 am

That has to suck.
Very depressing. 

I am the proud owner of a custom A's jersey with the name 'PTBNL' on the back. 

Yup.

'Player to Be Named Later' because for gods sake we can't keep anyone around longer than 3 seasons.

Banned Poster
SinceNov 14, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 6, 2013 2:19 pm

That has to suck.
Very depressing. 

I am the proud owner of a custom A's jersey with the name 'PTBNL' on the back. 

Yup.

'Player to Be Named Later' because for gods sake we can't keep anyone around longer than 3 seasons.

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Cry me a river.  Beane seems to come up with an answer that keeps the A's competitive.  Now when the A's lose Beane that will be something to complain about.

Bulldog1008
SinceMay 12, 2010
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 7, 2013 2:42 am

Cry me a river.
Not a lake? 

Beane seems to come up with an answer that keeps the A's competitive.
1 winning season in the past 6 years.

I'm still waiting for someone to name a position player that Beane has developed into a strong player....Anyone?

Bueller?......Bueller?


Now when the A's lose Beane that will be something to complain about.
How about the fact that this can never happen unless he demotes himself. He's a minority owner in the team.




Banned Poster
SinceNov 14, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 7, 2013 5:17 am

I watched Lowrie play in Boston for years.The guy can hit & knows the fundamentals of the game.His only knock is he can be injury prone, but any player can be injured.Sure losing CC stings(Time for Brandon Moss to step up. but Billy Bean has the right idea.Lowrie is a great clubhouse guy & will be the team leader this young team needs.He's probably good for a .270 BA, w/15 HR's & depending on the batting order he should score 85-90 runs.He doesn't have the speed to lead off, but he'd be a great table setter batting 2nd.As far as I can tell, the A's don't have much of a lead-off hitter, unless they use CocoCrisp(34) or Chris Young,30, & strkes out too much to lead-off.
Lowrie may have the best shot at leading off.He wont steal a bunch of bases, but he's a contract hitter who doesn't strike out a lot.He's also a switchhitter, which is a plus for a leadoff hitter.First & formost he's gonna stay healthy!
ezmover2020
SinceAug 24, 2006
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Jed Lowrie traded to A's

February 7, 2013 9:24 am

" Carlos Gonzalez should never have been a Rockie and Chris Carter should never have been an Astro. This trade accomplishes nothing and does not fill a void."

The CarGo one hurts. Oakland does have a good OF now, probably a top 4-5 collection across the MLB (along with Atlanta (Upton 2x, Heyward), Waahington (Harper, Werth, Span), LAA (Trout, Bourjos, Hamilton) and maybe Toronto (Bautista, Melky, Rasmus).
Oakland gave us Huston Street, CarGo and Greg Smith to get Holliday, but then flipped Holliday to St. Louis for Brett Wallace, Clayton Mortensen and Shane Peterson. Out of those three, only Peterson is still with the organization, and he was only named to the 40-man roster this past season. Not exactly a household name. Oakland miscalculated what they were getting back for Holliday, which happens, prospects are only prospects. But why make the move for Holliday at all? Why didn't they just hang on to CarGo? I can understand dumping Huston Street, at the time it looked like Joey Devine or Brad Zeigler could easily take over the closer role. But CarGo was a budding star, 5-tool defensive gem center fielder. I don't get it.
SoxInRhody
SinceDec 11, 2006