Everyone has an opinion. But there's a reason this guy is 37-34 as a head coach and generally viewed as a sleazy goofball.
Cant believe you can still defend Kiffin
Cant believe you can still defend Kiffin
This should be Kiffin's last shot but I think USC will give him 2 years to develop Browne as long as he maintains a .500 record. But after that....Vaya con Dios.
trojanfan...is hard for some of us to believe that he recruits as well as he does because, fair or not, he comes across as a buffoon.
Even though I dont particularly like the guy he does get credit for reeling in studs to play football. It is a handicap when your scholarships are limited but it is also true that southern california with the weather, women and the tradition of USC is not that hard of a sell.
Having said that I would think Pat Hayden has given him some kind of an ultimatum about next season.
I also think LK has done nothing to ingratiate himself with fans with his silly antics. He may be in his 30s but some of those stunts were middle school mentality.
Time for him to grow up.
A fair approach would be to hold off on the Saban comparisons.
Look, I don't think this guy has been handed an ideal situation, but at the same neither has anyone not named Les Miles. The fact remains he was fired from the Raiders after a litt over one season, and has had a pedestrian HC career otherwise. Since we are carving out records, take away the one good season Kiffin was able to put together and his overall record is 27-32 with his college record at 22-17.
Besides, it's not like this guy is mucking it out at Middle Tennessee State or Northern Iowa. Getting to coach the Raiders, Volunteers, and Trojans right out of the box is an opportunity 99% of coaches would die for, so let's hold off on the "woe is Kiffin" ballad.
At some point, it stops being everyone else.
Really? That's your idea of being "fair"? Lane Kiffin is considered a sleazy goofball only because of Tennessee and SEC fans?
Impossible to even take seriously.
His job is to get the Ws and the rest will follow; my point was if you are not living up to the hype/expectations is it really the smartest thing to be the biggest moron you can be on top of the Ls? You can be cocky if you are Nick Saban not Lane Kiffin.
You can be cocky if you are Nick Saban not Lane Kiffin.
I also agree with you about Pat Hayden. He is a classy no nonsense kind of guy. He didnt hire LK and I know he said all the right things to protect the recruits.
I am sure too that there are USC fans who want to kick Lane to the curb.
Next season will be very telling.
You are the picture perfect Kiffin apologist.That's all that guy does here. For anyone that is viewed as less than savory....here he comes to defend them. Its what he does.
I would hardly call taking a Tennessee team that had been in decline for nearly a decade and had a losing season the previous year to a 7-6 record and bowl game...flopping.TF12, is that REALLY a big accomplishment?
It's just not that difficult. Overall, Kiffin is barely over a .500 as a HC. You wanted to carve out his college career trying to put a shine on your argument. However, closer examination of even his college career shows that he has had one season of 10 wins and the remainder as slightly above .500. Just as his overall record shows.
You are quickly becoming king of the strawman argument.
There's no complaining about the jobs that he has had.
The point is that you are full of excuses on why Kiffin has failed to be anything more than a .500 HC. He has held some of the best jobs in the sport and still cannot manage to be more than pedestrian.
Miraculously, we have over 5 seasons of track record at top-notch gigs and you argue that he hasn't been given the situation he needs to succeed. Yeah, that happens in life. If only he could get a job where he had the best talent and the best assistant coaches, and didn't have to play good competition, then we could really see what this guy could do.
OMG, you mean that even if you are right that some people just don't like him because they are fans of SEC teams, that all fans of SEC teams don't like him for the same reason? Gosh, why didn't you just say so.
You are the picture perfect Kiffin apologist.
TF12, is that REALLY a big accomplishment?
We could probably find dozens of examples of other coaches taking over a team that had multiple losing seasons, and got them to 7-6 or better in their first year.I agree, definitely nothing to brag about. Additionally, I'd add that the 7-6 record at Tennessee and last seasons 7-6 record at USC are very different as well. The 7-6 record at Tennessee was an improvement while the 7-6 record at USC was an epic fail.
It may not be "flopping" but it isn't anything to brag about, either.