P.Manning&Flacco-same AMT. of playoff WINS !

please don't ask me where things are being done when they've clearly been done by others.  if you haven't done them, good for you your reply isn't necessary.

If this is in regard to the "Flacco on a pedastool" comment, it's a comment you directed specifically in response to me.  The better statement would be, if I never said it or did it, don't project it on me as if I did.

2ndly, I know about all playoff runs.  Think I just sit and watch one game a post season?  I tend to watch them all.  I've seen Joe's entire body of work in the playoffs.  It's pretty good and he has good overall numbers.  Ironically since you're calling it out now, so does Peyton and it does slightly favor him.  That's all I said.  Would you disagree with that notion

As I said, of course Peyton would have better combined numbers.  He's played 7 more playoff games.  No arguing that.  But for 7 more games, Peyton has NOT thrown twice as many TDs yet has ALMOST thrown 3 times as many INTs.  I bet that has a bearing on why one guy hasn't gone one and done yet while the other has 8 times. 

Colts had a strong running game in the post season, but through all 20 games they were middle of the pack.  Ravens were better with the run, which says something considering the league is all pass happy right now.  Defensively, the Ravens were more balanced too

How in the world do you come back and say this when I've already provided the numbers?  In the playoff run, Rice and Addai were almost exact in yards and were exactly equal in TDs.  The 2006 Colts defense held opponents to LESS yards AND LESS points than the 2012 Ravens.  Are you just choosing to ignore the facts in order to give extra credit to Peyton??
  

I mean, do you really need to take it personally when I say a team was more balanced?

I don't take much personally on an online message board but there's no need to blatantly ignore facts and lie.  The run games we almost exactly similar.  The Colts defense performed better in the 2006 playoffs than the 2012 Ravens did.  The Colts were actually the more balanced team.  Only Baltiimore's QB actually performed at a high level while Peyton went along for the ride.

It would be like comparing some of the inflated yardage stats of the QB's of today to those of the 70's

So comparing teams from 2012 and 2006 is the same as comparing teams from 2012 to 1970?  You really are desperate at this point.

Also, you're whole "you can't compare a whole six year difference because of blah blah blah" is just pointless.  I'm comparing how a 2006 team did in 2006 against 2006 competition vs how a 2012 team played in 2012 vs 2012 competition.

These two teams haven't been brought up against each other by me to me recollection.  They've been compared about how they each performed in their respective years.  They performed similar with the 2006 Colts playing better in the 2006 playoff season than the 2012 Ravens played in the 2012 playoff season.  Only difference is the QB of the 2006 Colts team completely sucked and contributed almost nothing to that superbowl run while the QB of the 2012 Ravens team was one of the main factors of his team winning the ring. 
    
Both defenses stepped up in the playoffs.  Both running games were ok in the playoffs.  One QB sucked horribly and the other rivaled greatness.  Why you're arguing this is beyond me unless you're just that big a Peyton fan
     

 

One QB sucked horribly and the other rivaled greatness.  Why you're arguing this is beyond me unless you're just that big a Peyton fan

Ravens Fan...how dare you bring up Peyton's horrible playoff play, which has happened many, many years!  Blitz is not going to be happy with you!  Blitz has very little objectivity and reality when it comes to Peyton.  He always has an excuse for Peyton's horrid play, and let him tell it, Peyton had nothing to do with the 8 one and dones.

He actually has more than Tom Brady, once you discount the cheating victories - you know, since his last Super Bowl win...

He always has an excuse for Peyton's horrid play, and let him tell it, Peyton had nothing to do with the 8 one and dones.



http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.co
m/content/peyton-mannings-9-11-play
off-record-is-call-for-help/20867/


People are so stupid.

Read the article.

 

One QB sucked horribly and the other rivaled greatness.  Why you're arguing this is beyond me unless you're just that big a Peyton fan


And if you think Joe Flacco is anywhere near the QB Manning is (Peyton, of course) - you sir, are an idiot. You should concern yourself less with statistics you don't understand, and more with watching actual football games involving these two players.

And if you think Joe Flacco is anywhere near the QB Manning is (Peyton, of course) - you sir, are an idiot. You should concern yourself less with statistics you don't understand, and more with watching actual football games involving these two players

Well, now that you'd added your insults with no real info to back up your statement, how about you try again.

In the post season, in the playoffs, after the regular season has ended.  What makes Manning's 9-11 performance with 8 one and dones better than Flacco's 9-4 performance in the playoffs?

Both have a superbowl ring, as stated a few times.  Peyton was carried to his (3 TDs to 7 INTs) and Flacco led his team (11 TDs to 0 INTs).

This isn't about the regular season.  This is only about the post season.  So let's try again without the insults and by actually backing up statements.    

 

Flacco =  >  Manning  =  playoffs %

Manning/Marino  might be the best REGULAR season Q.B.s ever....but PLAYOFFS not so much

Manning/Marino  might be the best REGULAR season Q.B.s ever....but PLAYOFFS not so much

Actually Brady is    only QB with over a .700 winning percentage   almost .800   and best td/int in SB era   I know why Manning and Big Ben fans dont like him  is cause he owns them both.  Eli  is the better post season Manning  and pulled out two late drives to win both SB vs Brady. I cringe lately when pats play against Flacco and the Ravens    its almost a gimmee  vs Peyton  who has double the amount of one and dones as the no#2 guy    very good reg season QB and first round HOF  but not in same league as Montana/Brady/Graham/Unitas/Baugh

It means exactly nothing. Dan Marino has the same number of superbowl wins as bubby brister, see the faulty logic?

LOL, how many SB's does Marino have?  How many does Flacco have in his first 5 years?  Let me guess, Marino didn't have any receivers, and no defense.  So presumpionally Marino must have been a better QB.  LOL.  I'm sure that will be the argument.  While we're on the subject, how many rings does Brees, Rodgers, and Favre have?  The only three to have more than Flacco are Brady, (Eli) Manning, and Rotten Burger.  But I guess it has never been Pittsburgh's defense to help him out, or Manning's (from what I saw it was definitely more of their defense in that first Championship than his offense). Brady is the only one with multiple rings who really won it for his team pretty much by himself and his receivers. Oh, and how many did he have while cheating?

But I guess Flacco still isn't that good.  

I guess you're only a great QB in this league if you DON'T have a good defense.  Good defenses shouldn't be allowed for that reason.

And I don't care what anyone says, (Peyton) Manning has always played in arguably the easiest division in football his whole career. The Texans didn't get good until last year, which is conviently the year Peyton didn't play. The Titans have sucked the past several years, and the Jaguars, well, they're not even worth mentioning. For that matter, Brady's played in a weak division his whole career. Put Peyton in the AFC North with us and he probably doesn't even get one ring. Would have been just fine with me. Put Brady in our division and he'll still have three (cheating again). Maybe not three, maybe two. Of course, with our defense and Pittsburgh's, Brady might not have the amount of playing time he's had his whole career, if you know what I mean.

RavinRaven55

Brady didn`t win it by himself. He had 1 TD for the entire 2001 playoffs and less then 200 yards per game. And 77 QB Rating. Might mention that Trent Dilfer had 3 TDs, and a 83 QB rating.

He also had pretty good defenses. Allowing 15, 17 and 19 points, and yards in the low 300 hundreds. In 2004 he had a running game averaging 150 yards per game, when Brady himself was once again passing for less then 200. In 2003 the O-Line allowed 0 sacks for entire playoffs. He was playing more like todays Alex Smith. A very clutch version of Alex Smith. But the teams were in no way built around Brady like todays team is. And he deffinatly didn`t win it by himself.

And if you think Joe Flacco is anywhere near the QB Manning is (Peyton, of course)


I would compare Flacco  9-4 to Eli   8-3    not the 8   count em  8  one and dones Manning   thats twice as much as the no# 2 guy  The refs admitted they blew a call in the 06 AFCG  that gave the Colts the victory       Peyton should kiss the zebars ass or he would be ringless 

Looking up QB ratings in Playoff games proved to be interesting. Manning's is 86.2, Flacco has a 78.7 and for fun I looked up Tom Brady and his is 87.3. Looks like all 3 play pretty even in the playoffs.

Looking up QB ratings in Playoff games proved to be interesting. Manning's is 86.2, Flacco has a 78.7 and for fun I looked up Tom Brady and his is 87.3. Looks like all 3 play pretty even in the playoffs.


Shhh!  Don't tell them that.  They don't care how a qb personally performs in the postseason, if his team still loses hes clearly a choke artist.

 Of course, with our defense and Pittsburgh's, Brady might not have the amount of playing time he's had his whole career, if you know what I mean.


What do you mean?  he has faired well against both clubs   even with Pollard  and Harrison  2 of the cleanest and classiest .  It was Mo Lewis of the Jets  who took him out

Shhh!  Don't tell them that.

I heard that  I dont want to knock on Peyton cause I know he is a first ballot HOF  but when Joedouchbagster  brings Brady and his cheating into a Manning-Flacco thread  or Coltbluecode   and all he ever says is that Brady is the best dink and dunker ever.  Get some new schtick .  But dont hung up with the QBR  that doesnt tell the whole story    Manning won his with a .70 qbr in 06 playoffs   and Ben won a SB with his .22  SB QBr    it  crucial mistakes that can seal a game   Like in AZ/Pitt SB  with AZ down 3 but in FG range with little time left, warner throw a pick sizx where Harrison runs it back 100 yards  and now down by 10.  Guys sometimes try to force it in

You know Sonny, it happens to the best of them. I like Brady but I think it was 2006 he threw the pick to Marlin Jackson that gave the Colts the AFC Championship and 2009 he threw 3 picks in a home loss to the Ravens, that was also his worse playoff game, his QBR was 49.1 for that game. But like I said earlier Brady & Manning's QBR is almost the same. But people view them differently.