desperate for his big men - kobette

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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 3:44 pm

Lebron couldn't win without Wade or Bosh...just the facts right JC...
wlkwlk3
SinceMar 23, 2007
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 3:53 pm

Dwight had this to say about Kobe wanting Howard to play through pain

“That’s his opinion. That’s it. He’s not a doctor, I’m not a doctor.”


Then:

“”I want to play, I mean, why wouldn’t I want to play? But, at the same time, this is my career, this is my future, this is my life. I can’t leave that up to anybody else because nobody else is going to take care of me. So, if people are pissed off that I don’t play or if I do play, whatever it may be, so what? This is my career. If I go down, then what? Everybody’s life is going to go on. I don’t want to have another summer where I’m rehabbing and trying to get healthy again. I want to come back and have another great year. That’s what I want to do.”


 Howard has said recently that he tried to play through back issues last year and it made them worse and forced the surgery he had and that he is still struggling to overcome. Howard said he learned a lesson from that.  


  
Jims_Doors
SinceAug 23, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 3:58 pm

I gotta agree with Dwight.
realdeal5
SinceNov 23, 2007
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:01 pm

Guys there's a reason Kobe has 5 rings, and guys like Dwight Howard and lebron have 0 legit titles...It's called championship heart.
Sman20ll
SinceMay 22, 2012
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:05 pm

(from 2hrs ago)Here's the full testy exchange when Dwight got annoyed when asked if he has talked to Kobe about his injury ...



Reporter: Have you talked to Kobe about it, just your situation?

Dwight Howard: "What situation?"

Reporter: In terms of your injury and all that?

DH: "Have I talked to Kobe?"

Reporter: Yes, just as far as outlining, like, telling him your perspective?

DH: "Of what?"

Reporter: Of you wanting to take the long view?

DH: "Why do I have to explain that to Kobe?"

Reporter: Well, because he’s a teammate …

DH: "He’s  a doctor?"

Reporter: No, but he’s a teammate.

DH: "OK. So I should explain that to all my teammates then, right?" 

Reporter: I’m not insinuating that. I’m just asking, have you talked to him?

DH: "I’m asking you …"

Reporter: I don’t know if you’ve talked to him.

DH: "I’m asking you, I’m supposed to tell all my teammates?"

Reporter: No, I’m just asking if you talked to him.

DH: "Just Kobe. Just Kobe."

Reporter: Considering the comments he made yesterday …

DH: "I don’t know what he said."

Reporter No. 2: He says we don’t have time for Dwight’s shoulder to heal. We need urgency. We need him back on the floor. This is the Lakers. It’s either a championship or a complete failure.

DH: "OK."

Reporter No. 2: What do you say to that?

DH: "That’s his opinion."  


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As you guys can see, Kobe's comments have really encouraged Dwight to play asap.  
  

   
               

Jims_Doors
SinceAug 23, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:17 pm

What a surprise, Kobe back-tracks now. 


   "There's an urgency to be out there, but it's not at the cost of making his shoulder worse," Bryant said after shootaround. "I've always said if he was healthy enough to play and there was a situation where he wasn't going to make it any worse then he should be playing. There should be an urgency about that, but I don't think I said anything that was different [than what I said before]."
Jims_Doors
SinceAug 23, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:21 pm

Anywhere else is fine, except to the media. 

Yes Kobe is the leader but he's NOT the coach. If a coach wants to call you out to the media to try to motivate one of his injured players I get that.  But nothing ever turns out good when you have your "so called leader" constantly calling out his teammaets to the media.
Yo!...J_D, slow your roll there cowboy...for the record -

[http://www.latimes.com/sports/laker
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-bryant-to-play-20130207,0,5567895.story?track=rss]

BOSTON -- The newest Lakers firestorm arrived Thursday after Kobe Bryant apparently told ESPN.com the night before that Dwight Howard needed to come back from his injured shoulder. Quickly.

But Bryant said Thursday he wasn't prodding Howard to return.

"Not even a little bit," Bryant said in a quiet moment after the team's morning shoot-around, adding that he was surprised at the tone of the ESPN story. "In this case, it's not legitimate. I was shocked."

Bryant has a high threshold for pain, as evidenced plenty of times in the past. Howard has missed six games and left two others because of a torn labrum in his right shoulder.

Bryant understood that his own pain tolerance was through the charts.

"I'm crazy, though, so I don't put that on other people," he said.

Howard took part in the morning shoot-around but was not sure whether he would play later in the day against the Boston Celtics.

He also didn't seem to want to hear what Bryant thought of him. Or didn't think of him.

"He's not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. So that's his opinion," Howard said. "I mean, I want to play. But at the same time, this is my career, this is my future, this is my life. I can't leave that up to anybody else because nobody else is going to take care of me.

"If people are [ticked] off that I don't play, that I do play, whatever it may be, so what? This is my career. If I go down, then what? Everybody's life is going to go on. I don't want to have to have another summer where I'm rehabbing and, you know, trying to get healthy again. I want to come back and have another great year."

According to ESPN.com, Bryant said, "We don't have time for [Howard's shoulder] to heal. We need some urgency."

Bryant also talked big picture about the free-agent-to-be.

"[Howard] has never been in a position where someone is driving him as hard as I am, as hard as this organization is," Bryant said. "It's win a championship or everything is a complete failure. That's just how [the Lakers] do it. And that's foreign to him."

If Howard doesn't play against the Celtics, the Lakers will go with Earl Clark at center, Coach Mike D'Antoni said.

"We'll play small," he added.

When Kobe said, "We don't have time for [Howard's shoulder] to heal. We need some urgency." that's not necessarily a direct shot at Howard, that's Kobe rallying his team essentially saying that nobody is in a position to take the "wait and see" approach with Dwight's injuries and that the team has to compensate and show some urgency in spite of Howard possibly not playing.
jefe101
SinceFeb 22, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:26 pm

..spin, spin, spin....
realdeal5
SinceNov 23, 2007
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:37 pm

Lebron couldn't win without Wade or Bosh...just the facts right JC...

why do you think the title chasing clown "took his talents to South Beach" to begin with...?


















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ChiefsLakers67
SinceApr 21, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:41 pm

Reporter: Have you talked to Kobe about it, just your situation? 

Dwight Howard: "What situation?" 

Reporter: In terms of your injury and all that? 

DH: "Have I talked to Kobe?" 

Reporter: Yes, just as far as outlining, like, telling him your perspective? 

DH: "Of what?" 

Reporter: Of you wanting to take the long view? 

DH: "Why do I have to explain that to Kobe?" 

  

That was hilarious!!  I am beginning to wonder if the reporters main job is to stir up stuff between players so they can get a story.  Dwight shouldnt fall for that but he did.  The reporter definitely touched a nerve.
montsho11
SinceSep 4, 2007
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 4:46 pm

When Kobe said, "We don't have time for [Howard's shoulder] to heal. We need some urgency." that's not necessarily a direct shot at Howard, that's Kobe rallying his team essentially saying that nobody is in a position to take the "wait and see" approach with Dwight's injuries and that the team has to compensate and show some urgency in spite of Howard possibly not playing.

Thats one way of looking at it.  Another way would be that Kobe has realized that another ring may be a bit harder to get than he anticipated.  He knows he is not going anywhere without Howard or Gasol in the lineup.  His comment was the epitome of stupid because he revealed his concern for his own self instead of the Dwights health.
montsho11
SinceSep 4, 2007
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 5:11 pm

That was hilarious!! I am beginning to wonder if the reporters main job is to stir up stuff between players so they can get a story. Dwight shouldnt fall for that but he did. The reporter definitely touched a nerve.


I have a feeling it was LA Times agitator, I mean reporter, TJ Simers. He's been on the road with the Lakers during this road trip. He's always trying to stir the pot for his page 2 articles when it comes to LA sports. Many of you here would enjoy his reads. He has been ripping Kobe for several years now.
lakersrule
SinceDec 20, 2006
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 5:36 pm

When Kobe said, "We don't have time for [Howard's shoulder] to heal. We need some urgency." that's not necessarily a direct shot at Howard, that's Kobe rallying his team essentially saying that nobody is in a position to take the "wait and see" approach with Dwight's injuries and that the team has to compensate and show some urgency in spite of Howard possibly not playing.
Thats one way of looking at it.  Another way would be that Kobe has realized that another ring may be a bit harder to get than he anticipated.  He knows he is not going anywhere without Howard or Gasol in the lineup.  His comment was the epitome of stupid because he revealed his concern for his own self instead of the Dwights health.
montsho, please, that's just your way of imposing your own anti-Kobe bias on a spin off the same quote.  You think Kobe's the only player on this Lakers team that is playing for a championship?  All the Lakers do is play for championships - perennially!

Look, this is Kobe's team - he's the face of the franchise, for now, and their unquestioned leader - and it is certainly his perogative to speak out in this way...not only that, but it is completely consistent with what any other Lakers leader has done and said in the past.
jefe101
SinceFeb 22, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 5:40 pm

This is one of the most selfish things I have ever seen.

Basically what you have from Kobe: I am not dwight. I do not know how much pain he feels, I am not a doctor. I have no clue what his capabilities are with his injury. BUT for the sake of my career Dwight really needs to just ignore everything else and play so I have a chance to win. Screw the next 10 years of his career that doesn't matter.

Now, it is one thing to think that. It is one thing to say it in the locker room. But to say it to the media is just petulant. Kobe is like a whiny little 4 year old when things don't go his way. AND THAT CERTAINLY is not how"the unquestioned leader of the team" should act.

On another note, to those saying LeBron needed Dwade and Bosh to win. Yes he did. But he also took a team to the NBA final with little or no talent on the roster. He made a below average cast into a great team. Thats whats a leader/great player does.

Meanwhile Kobe struggles to get out of the first round unless his roster is LOADED, and this year may not even make the playoffs with a LOADED roster. Everyone needs great players to win championships. But Kobe needs great players just to get past the first round.
hockey878
SinceNov 12, 2006
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 5:40 pm

Look, this is Kobe's team - he's the face of the franchise, for now, and their unquestioned leader - and it is certainly his perogative to speak out in this way...not only that, but it is completely consistent with what any other Lakers leader has done and said in the past.

Sorry, but if you are the unquestioned leader then no one would have a problem talking to you about your plans to deal with their injury.  Howard basically said "who the F is Kobe that I need to run the status of my injury by?"  Or maybe I'm reading into it like you are doing.
montsho11
SinceSep 4, 2007
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 6:43 pm

Howard basically said "who the F is Kobe that I need to run the status of my injury by?"  Or maybe I'm reading into it like you are doing.
montsho, you are reading into it...Howard is being baited by reporters who are, as usual, trying to make a much bigger story out of this than exists in the first place.

Kobe made a comment basically saying that these are urgent times for the team and that they can't be held back by an injury to a key play, and this is what happens...guys like you and hockeyhead are quicky to assign blame and impose their own hatred towards a player to say, "ohhhhh, this is Kobe acting selfishly"...

Haters will hate.
jefe101
SinceFeb 22, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 6:46 pm

lol simple jefe, koldazice and the rest of the stupid faker fans, TOLD YOU SO. kobe-dwight feud how entertaining. lol i love dwight now. KOBE IS NOT A DOCTOR. ha ha ha.

with gasoft injured, desperate housewife kobina looking to depend on his big man for him to even get to the playoffs. fool, dwight brought Magic to the finals. kobina is not in a position to act high and mighty.

heatmyshorts
SinceMar 2, 2012
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 6:48 pm

I don't know of any player named Kobette, is that a little girls league that the op is in?
True_Laker_Fan
SinceOct 23, 2008
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 6:50 pm

montsho, you are reading into it...Howard is being baited by reporters who are, as usual, trying to make a much bigger story out of this than exists in the first place.

Kobe made a comment basically saying that these are urgent times for the team and that they can't be held back by an injury to a key play, and this is what happens...guys like you and hockeyhead are quicky to assign blame and impose their own hatred towards a player to say, "ohhhhh, this is Kobe acting selfishly"...

Haters will hate.

ENOUGH of this BS simple jefe, u r truly a deluded fool. u predicted the fakers will gel. well is this the chemistry u speak of? reporters are reporters. but the words kobina use speaks of arrogance whether or not they were baited. same with howard's disdain for kobina's words whether baited or not. these are two big egos, both immature and both thinking they are top superstars.

your mancrush for kobina shines like ur bald head. perhaps kobessa should just shut up and shoot 14 of 15 (lol as if he can) before he can act like a doctor, coach, leader or whatever u kobina lovers want him to be.
heatmyshorts
SinceMar 2, 2012
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desperate for his big men - kobette

February 7, 2013 6:53 pm

heatmyshorts: kobe-dwight feud inevitable. fakers will suck from day one.
simple jefe: Lakers will gel and crystalize. lets put up a nice nash howard avatar both smiling in harmony (LOL).


guess who has the crystal ball dufus.
heatmyshorts
SinceMar 2, 2012