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all in favor...say Rondo 

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What else does Flacco have that Bradford does not other than his post season performances and team wins?

a career QB Rating 9 points points higher

a completion% at 60.5 (cause i've been told many times 60% is the mark)

Y/A at 7.1

highest amount of INT's in a season: 12, Bradford: 13, 15 in the only 2 years he's played 16 games.

Bradford 20 TD's 1, Flacco 4 times

 

Better numbers and the knowledge that he can be counted on for 16 games a year

Coward.

a career QB Rating 9 points points higher

a completion% at 60.5 (cause i've been told many times 60% is the mark)

Y/A at 7.1

highest amount of INT's in a season: 12, Bradford: 13, 15 in the only 2 years he's played 16 games.

Bradford 20 TD's 1, Flacco 4 times

"Players don't matter."

"Michael Jordan can win on his own, why can't Sam Bradford?"

~VP and JETS

What else does Flacco have that Bradford does not other than his post season performances and team wins?



what do you mean, "other than?"  his post season performances and team wins IS the difference.  "Its all about winning in the postseason, except when it isn't"...is not a convenient debate.

its the old "take out Roy Oswalts chitty outings, and he's pretty good." 

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dude so your going to argue, nothing matters


if stats dont matter cause he has better players, and wins dont matter cause he has better players.......than what the Eff matters?
 

sigh.


when will you guys learn.

QB is in a league of its own.

Here you all are throwing around passing yards and TDs...


Tony Romo and Phillip Rivers throw lots of yards too...guess what, they are not "elite", I wouldn't even put either of them in my "second tier"

bottom line is QB's need to play well on 3rd downs, 2 minute drills, 4th quarters and playoff games.

QBs who do that will always be evaluated higher, always. 

a career QB Rating 9 points points higher

a completion% at 60.5 (cause i've been told many times 60% is the mark)

Y/A at 7.1

highest amount of INT's in a season: 12, Bradford: 13, 15 in the only 2 years he's played 16 games.

Bradford 20 TD's 1, Flacco 4 times

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One other thing about Flacco - here is the number of games he's started each year in his 5 year career

16, 16, 16, 16, 16

bottom line is QB's need to play well on 3rd downs, 2 minute drills, 4th quarters and playoff games

You forgot Red Zone. And I suppose to Bradford haters that having 17 rushing touchdowns doesn't make things easier on the QB.

dude so your going to argue, nothing matters

That is your argument.

"players don't matter."

"Michael Jordon won rings by himself why can't Bradford?"

a career QB Rating 9 points points higher

a completion% at 60.5 (cause i've been told many times 60% is the mark)

Y/A at 7.1

highest amount of INT's in a season: 12, Bradford: 13, 15 in the only 2 years he's played 16 games.

Bradford 20 TD's 1, Flacco 4 times

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One other thing about Flacco - here is the number of games he's started each year in his 5 year career

16, 16, 16, 16, 16



I am still confused about cowboys "other than" his postseasons and superbowl win.  why any of the above is more of an indicator than what Flacco just did, is very confusing to me...

bottom line is QB's need to play well on 3rd downs, 2 minute drills, 4th quarters and playoff games.

This past season, the one Sam Bradford was robbed of a MVP from AP



4th quarter: Flacco QB Rating 103.1, Bradford 87.0

3rd Down: Flacco QB Rating: 87.0, Bradford: 69.3

2 minutes left in half: Flacco QB Rating: 87.6, Bradford: 72.8 



I am still looking for a site that has Bradford's playoff numbers. 

Have you ever listened to a post game interview?    

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Yes, and all the Yankees say how great a teamate ARod is and how they love playing with him...yadda yadda.

"everthing an athlete says in a post game interview is gospel!" -       

You forgot Red Zone. And I suppose to Bradford haters that having 17 rushing touchdowns doesn't make things easier on the QB.

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hasnt bradford had stephen jackson with him his entire career?

 

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dude so your going to argue, nothing matters


if stats dont matter cause he has better players, and wins dont matter cause he has better players.......than what the Eff matters?

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He wants to include a caveat for every variable except the ones that are inconvient for his argument


So he wants to take into account Flacco's receivers.... but not the fact that Bradford plays on a fast track in a dome, or that he played 1 game in the last 2 months in a cold weather city (whereas Flacco played all but 2 games in a cold weather city)


And he wants to take into account Ray Rice.... but not the fact that Flacco's postseason performance (which is pretty much the only reason anyone considers him elite) was despite Ray Rice having like 14 fumbles in the postseason

I remember Pete mentioning something about Pitchers and wins..as if they had some signifcance...

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Of course it has significance... you can pick one or two guys in a 100 years that pitched to awful luck their entire careers and would have had better W-L if they were on a better team.

I will argue that in the long run, over a season, Good pitchers win, bad pitchers lose!

Steve Carlton once one 25% of his teams entire wins for the season!!

        

hasnt bradford had stephen jackson with him his entire career?

Which number is larger 5 rushing TDs or 17?

Whats that?? You need an offensive line to run the ball?

He wants to include a caveat for every variable except the ones that are inconvient for his argument

Having a chitty supporting cast and offensive line is not a caveat. That is the meat and potatoes if you will.