Brady and (Post) and (Pre) Spygate Success

I never once said all other teams were doing it.  Never.  Not one single time.

 I said all other teams COULD do it.  They were free to do it.  Some did.  We know this.

ERGO
Level playing field.
I can't hold your hand and dumb it down any further.  At some point you just have to accept this. That the images on the video were and STILL ARE available to everybody, filmed from a legal location. 

The other teams were free to do it? No, they weren't. Not if they wanted to follow the rules. But thank you for ADMITTING that the Pats DID have an advantage over the other teams. Therefore, they cheated.

The memo released prior to the 2007 season only re-emphasized the rule. That means there was a rule in place when the Pats were taping signals. They cheated. In reponse, Y says that the other teams were free to tape as well. No - that would have been cheating. So his argument is that the other teams were free to cheat as well? So I guess the lesson here is that everyone is free to cheat and when you get caught, just say it was a 'misinterpretation of the rule'. Wow.

The other teams were free to do it? No, they weren't. Not if they wanted to follow the rules. But thank you for ADMITTING that the Pats DID have an advantage over the other teams. Therefore, they cheated.

Um... yes they were.  Some did.  Your coach did.  Therefore they cheated as well.  A rule that isn't enforced isn't much of a rule, is it?

Everybody was free to do it up until the Commish changed hands from Tagliabue to Goodell.  When Goodell took over, he demanded the practice cease.  As far as we know, only one team flipped him off and told him to pound sand.  Belichick.  1st half of the 1st quarter of game one in 2007.

Anything before that was fair game.     


See, you're wearing your blinders to the point where no matter what anybody says, even the principals involved, won't sway your ignorant opinion.  Living a life inside that ignorant, stupid, vaccuum between your ears must be hell on earth.  

. They cheated. In reponse, Y says that the other teams were free to tape as well. No - that would have been cheating.

Really??!?

So prior to 2007, filming illegally is "cheating" ONLY when the Patriots did it?     

Hey look, Tom Brady realized he was overrated from his early cheating days. He took a paycut cause he felt guilty.

No, anyone that broke the rule at any time was cheating - that included Cowher for however long he did it. That doesn't make it right. And to say that teams are 'free' (your word) to cheat as long as no one is enforcing the rule makes me weep for the future. That's just wrong. It was still cheating any way you slice it. And while cheating the Pats won 3 SB's. Without said cheating they're 0-2 in the SB.

One thing I do wish is that early in the 2000's I wish Eli and the Giants did a lot of "not cheating" before big games to know exactly what the plays against them would be.

*Shrugs*...your entire argument hinges on David Tyree pinning a ball to his head. That's how thin the line is between credible argument and not. The NFL has never recognized the Pats as cheating during 2001-2004 nor have they made an marking to indicate it aided a Super Bowl. When those facts change, let me know. 

As for Eli, he probably couldn't win even if he did know what the plays were.  

No, anyone that broke the rule at any time was cheating - that included Cowher for however long he did it. That doesn't make it right. And to say that teams are 'free' (your word) to cheat as long as no one is enforcing the rule makes me weep for the future. That's just wrong. It was still cheating any way you slice it. And while cheating the Pats won 3 SB's. Without said cheating they're 0-2 in the SB.

Finally you are admitting that Cowher cheated...so since you feel that New England deserves to have titles stripped from them do the Steelers also.

That's just wrong. It was still cheating any way you slice it.

So then also the Steeler players used STEROIDS during the 70s....and there is evidence that they used COCAINE prior to games.....All illegal..so again do they deserve to be punished......titles stripped?

With Steeler players from the 70's admitting they took - very much illegal and against the rules of the NFL in that time period - Amphetamines, there's no way any person on the face of the earth that can say they didn't cheat. 

It's not even open for debate.

They took em, they cheated and they won. 

One thing I do wish is that early in the 2000's I wish Eli and the Giants did a lot of "not cheating" before big games to know exactly what the plays against them would be. 

Eli was still at Ol Miss in the early 2000's. Drafted in 2004.

Belichick and Sean Payton both come from the Parcells/Giants coaching tree. Think they might have learned a trick or two there?

It's not even open for debate.

Unless you have an undying desire to try and make people believe that you are right. I have figured what TrannyTrolls issue is...she has an inferiority complex and NEEDS to made to feel like she is right.

Tell her she is right...and I bet she goes away.

Nah, sorry RM, I've said flat out in the past that the Patriots cheated and deserved to be punished for it especially where they were specifically warned about that very issue just weeks before.

Her reply? "You cheated" "blah blah, blah, cluck, cluck, cluck". 

Insufferable.  
   

The memo released prior to the 2007 season only re-emphasized the rule.

Now move forward just a bit and ask yourself why league officials would feel that a long standing rule needed to be "re-emphasized"? 

Hey look, Tom Brady realized he was overrated from his early cheating days. He took a paycut cause he felt guilty

If you call winning more games than any QB since spygate ( not counting the year he was out)   then yes  he is overrated.  I guess  not knowing the defensive signals hurt him so much  that the 50 td's in 07  would have been   75  if he had the signals

Nah, sorry RM, I've said flat out in the past that the Patriots cheated and deserved to be punished for it especially where they were specifically warned about that very issue just weeks before.

Her reply? "You cheated" "blah blah, blah, cluck, cluck, cluck". 

Insufferable.  

It's a repetative cycle....Spygate......Bountygate...
...Romo sucks.

Repeat....repeat....repeat

The NFL has never recognized the Pats as cheateing during the 2001-2004.

Yes, they have.

Did you miss this by Gregg Aiello?

"The rule which the Patriots violated was the policy that prohibits the use of equipment for the taping of offensive and defensive signals"

He's saying they cheated, and since the tapes turned in by Walsh were from the year 2001 - well that kinda shot your argument right in the ass.

It was in one of the links I posted earlier. The ones people cried for and then didn't read.

Did you miss this by Gregg Aiello?

You do realize who Gregg Aiello is don't you? He is nothing more than a spokesman....meaning he reads statements to the press. His word carries no credence or power. Stop treating him like he's the CEO of some company......he isn't. What he says is nothing but a prepared statement that is ok'd by the powers to be. 

well that kinda shot your argument right in the ass.

Is this where you claim some type of victory?