Restoring Order to the CBS-o-sphere

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Restoring Order to the CBS-o-sphere

February 13, 2013 4:57 pm

You seem to be ignoring that Pedro has 118 pitches on his arm when Posada steps up to the plate.

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Can we talk about David Cone throwing 256 pitches in Seattle in 1995...

Cone >> Pedro!

PeteNYC
SinceJul 26, 2008
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February 13, 2013 4:57 pm

By any account, Pedro did what he had to do to get Posada out... 
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Except for that unfortunate fact, that he didn't.... 
Dwn38str8
SinceDec 22, 2010
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February 13, 2013 4:57 pm

Grady Little >>>>> Pedro
G.D.IS.BALD
SinceOct 11, 2006
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February 13, 2013 4:58 pm

By any account, Pedro did what he had to do to get Posada out... 



how did Pedro do what he had to do get Posada out when HE DIDN'T GET HIM OUT???


snoogins - shut up already.
G.D.IS.BALD
SinceOct 11, 2006
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February 13, 2013 4:58 pm

BWAAAAHHHH!!!! That is irrelevant? But Tomlin walking two guys to load the bases before getting the coldest hitter on the planet to ground out, IS relevant?

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In a word, yes.

Leaving Pedro in to face Posada was the wrong play, no matter the outcome.

Sometimes a guy hits on a hard 17 and the dealer hands him a four. That doesn't mean it was the right move.

Posada's bloop was the equivalent of being dealt a five in that situation. I'm supposed to forgive him because he only busted a potential winning hand by a little.

sjmsteel
SinceAug 21, 2006
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February 13, 2013 4:59 pm

You seem to be ignoring that Pedro has 118 pitches on his arm when Posada steps up to the plate.
Which is why I probably would've taken him out unless it was an extraordinary circumstance like my teams entire season was on the line


Mariano doesn't pitch 3 innings at a time. Sometimes you do things you might not normally do in extreme situations
village plumber
SinceJul 27, 2007
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February 13, 2013 4:59 pm


Except for that unfortunate fact, that he didn't....


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Wins and Getting People out don't matter in baseball!

The pitcher can only do what he can, not his fault that the fielders didn't catch the ball.


PeteNYC
SinceJul 26, 2008
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February 13, 2013 4:59 pm

Can we talk about David Cone throwing 256 pitches in Seattle in 1995...

Ticked me off that he didn't challenge Doug Strange on ball 4. 
Jerzyjeff
SinceOct 31, 2007
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February 13, 2013 5:00 pm

Ticked me off that he didn't challenge Doug Strange on ball 4. 


me too.  still bothers me.  not as much, since there was ya know a dynasty that came after that, that Cone was a big part of...but still pisses me off to this day, Jeff
G.D.IS.BALD
SinceOct 11, 2006
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February 13, 2013 5:01 pm

He induced a simple bloop. That bloop was no more likely to become a base hit if it was off of a completely gassed Pedro than if it came off a fresh Pedro. 

So no, I don't think those 3 ropes was a good indicator of what ended up actually happening on Posada's at bat

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idiotic

giving up three ropes to the first four hitters is not indicative of potentially giving up another one to a good hitter?

yah..ok


RedSoxGalaxy
SinceMar 1, 2007
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February 13, 2013 5:02 pm

So in summary, Grady Little was incompetent in the extreme, and high school players should be eligible for the NBA draft.

Good day.
sjmsteel
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February 13, 2013 5:04 pm

Where did I say Little shouldn't be fired?


He absolutely should've been - was a terrible manager


It's just that making the wrong call in that situation wasn't the reason he should be fired
village plumber
SinceJul 27, 2007
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February 13, 2013 5:04 pm

Just landed in Miami, 81 and mostly sunny, much nicer than New York. Where's that clinic? I need some deer antler spray.
Tomberger71
SinceJan 4, 2007
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February 13, 2013 5:04 pm

This pales in comparrison to the great pickles thread of 2/12/2013


Im sorry VP has subjected you all to this 
MrPickles111
SinceJan 19, 2012
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February 13, 2013 5:05 pm

giving up three ropes to the first four hitters is not indicative of potentially giving up another one to a good hitter?

yah..ok
Posada's hit was now roped?

village plumber
SinceJul 27, 2007
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February 13, 2013 5:06 pm

me too.  still bothers me.  not as much, since there was ya know a dynasty that came after that, that Cone was a big part of...but still pisses me off to this day, Jeff

Of all the many pitches and arm angles that Cone threw, he chose a pitch that is 99% of the time, a ball, if taken. So, it was pretty much ball 4 when it left his hand.
Jerzyjeff
SinceOct 31, 2007
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February 13, 2013 5:06 pm

Can we all agree that if your 34 year old, first ballot, cy young pitcher is gassed on pitch 101 in game 7 of the ALCS, he is over brady'd!?

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He was 31...

Pedro is the best pitcher I've ever seen...but his later years?  He couldn't go deep in games... 


Batters hit .215 against him in 2003, 100+ pitches?  .298 BA against (very hittable)  Grady got fired for ignoring that fact...it started when he let him start the 8th, the mistake was exacerbated with every batter he left him out there to face...


Dwn38str8
SinceDec 22, 2010
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February 13, 2013 5:06 pm

Just landed in Miami, 81 and mostly sunny, much nicer than New York. Where's that clinic? I need some deer antler spray.


Nobody cares Tom.

Ancient history is being discussed...ad nausem 
Jay Bruce
SinceAug 6, 2012