Automatic Ejection for Hit Above Shoulders WTH??

No need to get testy. I'm aware of what you said before, which is what I already addressed. As soon as you explain exactly how a player can "avoid the cheapshot" when a runner or receiver lowers their head into the defenders path? Apparently your answer to this that it is the judgment portion of this ruling and you feel that makes it good to go.

My apologies, after re-reviewing what you said before you didn't address squat.  Let's take a serious look at the additional penalty with roughing the kicker.  Many affeccionados of the game literally screamed that this was unfair.  It put too much "power" into the hands of the refs.  A judgement call that will ruin the game.  But take a serious look at why the rule was put into place.  At the time it was implemented schools were actually (God forbid) starting to give scholarships to kickers especially kickers that would average 45 yards or even better with a punt. 

Guess what started happening?  Coaches were telling players--get that guy--meaning the kickers.  The 15 yard penalty for roughing the kicker was instituted for that very reason--kickers were not only vulnerable they were no longer looked at as not being an integral part of the game.  In this day and age, far too many players (defensively) opt to take the cheap shot on a receiver/running back simply because they don't have the talent to do the right thing.  Also you still have coaches who are still saying "get that guy". 

There IS still an element of coaches saying "get that guy", but MORE importantly you have players at this level that truly have no business playing at this level.  They are punk asst bitches that:  1.  Aren't mature enough to know when they are being outclassed (talent), so they cheapshot. 2.  Have a coach that doesn't realize that a kid should be pulled even for a set of downs because said player has lost his ability to do anything but cheapshot, 3.  Said player "thought" he had enough talent to avoid something as simple as learning and paid little attention to technique during practice. 

Payton, I realize part of football is that it's a "bloodlust" sport if you will.  There is nothing I enjoy more than an honest hit that knocks a player senseless.  What I don't like are the "pro wannabes" that get upset when they are being outplayed and resort to cheapshotting.  Will the refs make some questionable calls?  Of course.  I just don't want kids that don't have the talent or the discipline to continue making the types of plays that can do unnecessary damage simply because they don't have the capacity to realize they are merely being outplayed.        
   

You're completely missing my point Red. I don't disagree with most of what you said above. I have no problem with players being penalized for helmet to helmet hits. What I do have a problem with is the ejection aspect of the rule. You're right, there have not been that many big impacts on judgment calls in the past, but while a 10 or 15 yard penalty, even at a crucial point in the game may be accepted as part of the game from time to time even if a bad call, can you honestly say possibly losing the #1 defender in the first quarter of a game due to a bad call would not be a much bigger impact? 

See this is the problem. Who makes the decision that it is the defensive player who is at fault? Most of the time a wide receiver "creates" the contact by falling to the ground immediately. There needs to be a fine line between intentional and unintentional. This is becoming to the point where we mind as well go to two hand touch football.

But if it's your best defensive player:   A.  He should know better & B.  If he IS your best defensive player, he will know how to make the play without making it a cheapshot. 

I have seen it a 100 times where a offensive player will go lower or at the same height as the defensive player, and the defensive player gets penalized. You have to admit that the league is penalizing a lot of players for something they can not control all of the time.
 

I think what people are trying to say is that it would be bad for the game if good players are ejected from games due to the football equivalent of flopping.

Believe it, there are coaches who will teach their ball carriers how to instigate the helmet-to-helmet contact in such a manner as to draw an unfair ejection of a defensive player that the other team is worried about.

This has nothing to do with fan bloodlust. We are much more concerned with low-life despicable coaches who will stoop to all lows to win a game. And giving them a judgment rule that they can manipulate to their advantage.

Believe it. There are coaches out there who will do just that.

I have seen it a 100 times where a offensive player will go lower or at the same height as the defensive player, and the defensive player gets penalized.
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thank you.  so true.  fortunately so far the rule makers have had the good sense to not include ball carriers who lower their helmet in the group called "defenseless players."  hope they continue to have good sense.

Considering that this rule is new and quite a change from the norm, I believe this automatic ejection rule sucks. It could eventually come into effect after a few years, after the players have learned to adjust to it. For now it should just be a 15 yard penalty and a warning with ejection coming after two such hits in the same game. If the NCAA chose to do it the way I suggest I think everyone could much more easily learn to live with it. And stop complaining so much about it now.

2 concussions for the price of 1?

2 concussions for the price of 1?

Or 12 for the price of 12. A player can cause a concussion in every game. So what's your point?

As long as there has to be replay with the flag and before the player gets ejected I am fine with this rule. If they player goes for the head on purpose throw him out even if it was a player on for BAMA. Most of the flags that I have seen for the high hit have been because when the tackler goes to make the tackle the receiver is coming down with the ball and lowers into the hit of there head to be hit. These flags should be taken away and no ejection should happen but if it is a true high hit then flag them and eject them. There is no way to just review the hit for the ejection because if you come back and say that the player will no be ejected it is basically saying that the hit was no illegal so how could they flag for that.

As long as there has to be replay with the flag and before the player gets ejected I am fine with this rule.

For me this is just common sense....which probably means the refs won't do it....although I hope I'm wrong. 

Some guys like Clowney get automatic EJACULATION**** for hits above the shoulders, LOL. Is that okay?

automatic E--J-A-C--U-L- =AT-I--O-N

It is only for "Targeted" hits on "defenseless" receivers that are verified by REPLAY.

If the receiver is running after a catch, there is no ejection. 
Only the moment of the catch is subject to the rule.
If the hit was accidental there is no ejection.
If the receiver lowers his head, there is no ejection.

Plus, the referees are required to go to REPLAY.
The REPLAY must conclusively prove that it was both:

1) Purposely Targeted hit not accidental hit
2) against a receiver in defenseless position


This is a rule that will have very little negative effect on the game.
Players will adapt.  
We will barely notice the change.

Is the rule applied to only receivers? What about A late hit on anyone without the ball?

They should set up a program to take out these little prima donnas.  Maybe offer a cash reward for whoever takes one of these punks that cry when they get hit.  Like put a price on their heads ! 

Could call it a "bounty program" ! 


he! he!    J/k !!!!!!!   


 

It will be treated very similiar to a flagrant 1 and flagrant 2 in basketball They will go to the replay booth and determine if it was targeted or launched. They will error on the side of safety then reverse it if it was not malicious.  I don't like it but it won't be as bad as everyone thinks. Lets hope!!!

i'm all for safey but when you strap on the pads you accept the risk. cheap shots, yeah eject 'em. good hard FB plays, that's what we want as fans.
in 10 years college football players will be wearing flags.