Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 15, 2013 11:40 pm

What some people fail to comprehend is the fact that Super Bowls mean more than NFL or AFL championships. Telling me and other Steeler fans don't acknowledge pre-SB era. We do, but Super Bowls trump any title you can have in NFL history. There is a reason why they renamed it the Super Bowl to make it feel that much bigger that the NFL and AFL champion would meet in the ultimate champion game to say they are the best team in football. I'll give examples for you small minded folks who still can't understand what that means. Being the best basketball player in the state is good, but being the best basketball player in the country going into college means a helluva lot more. Being a WWF or AWA champion in 60s was good, but being the world champion trumps those. Being a champion in a small pond is one thing, being a champion with bigger stake are another. For those who don't know, NFL didn't always have 32 teams. More like about 15 before the AFL-NFL merger. Being an NFL or AFL champion today means being the NFC or AFC champion. Which is why yet again, I must inform you that yes, Super Bowls=more than NFL championships. For all of you who were enlightened(most of you who doesn't know the difference between an NFL championship and super bowl championship) You're Welcome!! Surprised??SurprisedDon't be.......STAY JEALOUS!!Cool
ATKOOL
SinceMay 6, 2009
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 5:27 am

Did you just compare the super bowl to wrassling, now before I enlighten you go get your terrible towel to dry your tears I dont want to hurt your feelings but wrassling is FAKE. Surprise?? dont be.... it's scripted
chc14
SinceJan 16, 2010
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 6:48 am

Hulk Hogan > than any steeler
chc14
SinceJan 16, 2010
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 8:14 am

NFL history lessons from a teenager?




lol




Not to mention we non-Steelers fans know damn well if the Steelers had managed to win even 1 pre SB championship, it would surely count the same as a SB then



















 
zigzag13
SinceOct 21, 2006
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 8:18 am

Hulk Hogan > than any steeler
aaaaahahahahahaha!......^^^^^^great stuff right there....bravo!
Tikis-Barber
SinceFeb 7, 2007
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 8:23 am

As much as I hate to do it, I agree with ATKOOL's basic premise, because I agree with little of what he has to say... Basic logic tells you that it is more difficult to beat 31 teams than it is to beat 10.. Regardless of where you decide to draw the line, your argument will be arbitrary, because all things are not equal. I draw it at the merger, because that seems to be the most equalizing place to do so.
FearWare94
SinceSep 7, 2007
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 8:30 am

I guess anybody's opinion is just as good as someone else's here but I think that pre Super Bowl championships are just as valid. It's not the Giants, Bears, Packers, or any other champs fault that the NFL was a different format before 67. It's a level field for all the teams and the Steelers had their chances too.


I will say this: IMO, winning multiple SBs in this period of free agency that we've seen since the early 90s is very hard becuase it's tough to keep a team together. So teams like the Patriots, Giants, and yes the Steelers have something to be proud of in that regard.  
dirk275
SinceAug 12, 2006
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 10:46 am

All opinions respected, dirk, but why?... Why is a championship won by guys that played football against eight other teams, guys who played football as a part time job, in many cases, equal to the commitment it requires today? I get what you are saying, but disagree.. 
FearWare94
SinceSep 7, 2007
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 11:06 am

 
I get what you are saying, but disagree..     

Fair enough. Alot of times this arguement comes up when comparing the Packers 13 championships to the Steeler's 6 in a smackdown of who is the best franchise. To me, if the Steelers came into existence in 1933 then they have just as much of a chance to win championships as the Packers from 1933 on. That was really my point. I do think winning a SB is harder and winning in the era of free agency, like the Cowboys did, is even harder.

So when measuring franchises that came into existence long ago at roughly the same time then it's fine to say it's the same but in the case of a team like say, the Ravens or the Bucs, then I probably would give their individual championships a bit more weight because they haven't had the chance to compile the sheer number that the Giants or the Packers have.


This is hard to explain so I hope I'm making some sense.


Thanks FW94.       
dirk275
SinceAug 12, 2006
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 11:15 am

Take the Ice Bowl. Bart Starr beats the Cowboys by a pinkie in 67, two years before the Bowl era. Assuming we had stopped him, we get a championship. Close enough to the Bowl era to make the argument... But not close enough, for me... Awefully tough call, but you have to draw the line somewhere, if you think like me...
FearWare94
SinceSep 7, 2007
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 12:02 pm

Did you just compare the super bowl to wrassling, now before I enlighten you go get your terrible towel to dry your tears I dont want to hurt your feelings but wrassling is FAKE. Surprise?? dont be.... it's scripted

Damn, movies and 95% of TV is the same damn way. I guess I can't watch either for the rest of my life. I wonder if the people knew when I was in a play they were buying something that was scripted. 
ATKOOL
SinceMay 6, 2009
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 12:06 pm

They all mean the same to me.  To be the best, you gotta beat the best and the best are what's in the NFL.  You on top of the NFL?  You got yourself a title.

There is a reason why they renamed it the Super Bowl to make it feel that much bigger that the NFL and AFL champion would meet in the ultimate champion game to say they are the best team in football.
Actually, that's not the reason why they called it the Super Bowl. 


I love the Steelers as much as the next fan, but a title is a title.  Even more so when the franchise had an opportunity to grab one in any particular year of their existance. 
Blitzylvania
SinceNov 3, 2006
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 12:21 pm

Hulk Hogan > than any steeler

Will you stop it already? Why don't you get on the news to give your landmark announcement no one knew til you posted. 
ATKOOL
SinceMay 6, 2009
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 12:24 pm

I guess anybody's opinion is just as good as someone else's here but I think that pre Super Bowl championships are just as valid. It's not the Giants, Bears, Packers, or any other champs fault that the NFL was a different format before 67. It's a level field for all the teams and the Steelers had their chances too.

Equal? Players were jumping back and forth between 2 leagues. They finally formed to name the ultimate champion.....the Super Bowl champion!! Were you alive during that time? If you didn't think it was bigger to see the best team in the AFL to meet the NFL to name the ultimate champion of both leagues you must have some issues up there. 
ATKOOL
SinceMay 6, 2009
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 12:30 pm


Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed....



Knowledge and acknowledgement are two entirely different things!


yardog59
SinceJan 29, 2007
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 1:01 pm

Another good point, blitz.. You can only play who they put in front of you... Packers fans will always scream, "13!!", or whatever it is. Steelers fans will always scream, "Rings".. Arbitrary. based on different circumstances, so neither are really wrong..
FearWare94
SinceSep 7, 2007
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 1:04 pm

What some people fail to comprehend is the fact that Super Bowls mean more than NFL or AFL championships.
Especially for fans of the teams that never won Championships, but have won Super Bowls.

You apparently fail to comprehend the difference between facts and opinions.

If I shared in your opinion, I would find it amusing that the Steelers couldn't win a championship back when it was such a "small pond."
Pablo11
SinceJan 17, 2008
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 1:09 pm

Fair enough. Alot of times this arguement comes up when comparing the Packers 13 championships to the Steeler's 6 in a smackdown of who is the best franchise. To me, if the Steelers came into existence in 1933 then they have just as much of a chance to win championships as the Packers from 1933 on. That was really my point

If you can't see the difference between a Super Bowl championship and the NFL championship after all the examples I gave you.....you might need to ask for some help from a neighbor or something. 
ATKOOL
SinceMay 6, 2009
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 1:11 pm

If I shared in your opinion, I would find it amusing that the Steelers couldn't win a championship back when it was such a "small pond."

Players get drafted to the war, coach dies in a car crash, have a coach who doesn't even show up to games and ends up out of state. Than we have Chuck noll.... 
ATKOOL
SinceMay 6, 2009
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Steeler fans know pre-Super Bowl era existed.....

February 16, 2013 1:16 pm

Damn, movies and 95% of TV is the same damn way. I guess I can't watch either for the rest of my life. I wonder if the people knew when I was in a play they were buying something that was scripted.
So - he states that comparing wrestling champions and football champions is faulty, because one is scripted, and the other is genuine, and you respond by saying movies and plays are scripted, also?

#worsttangentever

#youmakenosense

Pablo11
SinceJan 17, 2008