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Not sure if I even like this idea, but...

February 22, 2013 8:54 am

Wait...so you'd rather have Rex Grossman as our 3rd stringer?

I'll answer this one! No, we don't want Rex as our 3rd stringer. What we want is a developmental QB who we can teach the NFL game and who we can hopefully have ready to step in as RGIII's backup if we're fortunate enough to trade Cousins for an early draft pick next year or the year after. Tebow is NOT that player. He's not a QB and would be a waste of a roster spot from that perspective. I'd rather see us draft a project QB late in the draft or pick one up in UDFA. One that has potential, but needs to sit for a year or two. Let him sit and learn from RGIII and Cousins and then have him ready to step up when Cousins leaves the team via trade or at the end of his contract.

BTW I would like to point out that we had our 3rd string QB active on game day what? 1-3 times all year? If we have to activate Tebow to use him 1-5 times a game, that means we'll have one less OL, DL, LB, WR, CB, Special teamer, etc on the active roster. Me personally, I don't think Tebow brings enough to the game to keep him active during game days. It's a waste of a roster spot in my opinion.

Now if he was willing to play FB full time or TE full time, then I can see signing him to a vet minimum contract and let him prove myself at one of those spots during training camp. But in no way shape or form would I allow him to throw the ball. The guy sucks as a passer and the sooner you folks get that through your heads, the better off we'll all be.

Anyway, again, lets just say no to the media circus that is Tim Tebow. We don't need him and he'd just disrupt the chemistry this team started to develop late in the season.

FFWolf1195
SinceMar 28, 2007
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February 22, 2013 9:53 pm

This is classic over-thinking, the Skins don't need another "passer" in the backfield. Tebow is no passing threat. They have a lead blocker, Darrell Young. Do you really want to mess with that? Alfred Morris ran for 1600 yards behind Young. Why would I want Tebow running the ball when I have Morris? Stop looking for a solution when there is no need. Scoring points is not the Skins problem, defense is. The secondary was 30th against the pass. They need safety help and at cornerback. No offensive experiments!!
Greagle
SinceJul 24, 2009
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February 23, 2013 9:23 am

Wolf, tebow has only played 3 years, give him time to develop (at the right price which is the league minimum). Why not roll the dice on a guy who has proven he can take a team to the playoffs
sampson
SinceMar 4, 2007
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February 23, 2013 1:00 pm

We should bring in Tim Tebow and John Skelton, sampson might cream his pants with both of them on the team.
thatlsk
SinceMay 31, 2007
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February 23, 2013 1:21 pm

We should bring in Tim Tebow and John Skelton, sampson might cream his pants with both of them on the team.


LOL!
SkinsFanOttawa
SinceDec 17, 2007
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February 23, 2013 5:55 pm

If we trade Kirk Cousins I would be all for it. I think both guys will have 10 year careers
sampson
SinceMar 4, 2007
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February 23, 2013 11:22 pm

Wolf, tebow has only played 3 years, give him time to develop (at the right price which is the league minimum).   Why not roll the dice on a guy who has proven he can take a team to the playoffs
Two reason's Sampson.

A) Tebow could be in the league for 10 years and he'd still absolutely suck as a passer. You can mess with his mechanics all you want, but when it comes to game time, he still reverts back to his horrible way of throwing incomplete passes. He will never be a QB in the NFL again and if a team gives him another chance, it won't be long before he's once again sitting on the bench. Besides, why in the hell do you want to take the ball OUT of RGIII's hands? That's just plain idiotic.

B) The Bronco's defense and some really bad plays by both Marion Barber and the Steelers defense both got Tebow and the Broncos into the playoffs and helped them win a playoff game. There were so many lucky plays during the games he started that the Broncos were right to let him go because lucky plays are not sustainable. Quality play at QB is sustainable. They knew he would hurt them far more then he would ever help them. Which is why he isn't in Denver any more.

Anyway, I don't want him on the Redskins and I sincerely hope that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan feel the same. He's a great guy in person, but just not a player I want on my team. 


  
FFWolf1195
SinceMar 28, 2007
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February 23, 2013 11:26 pm

If we trade Kirk Cousins I would be all for it.  I think both guys will have 10 year careers 
BTW If we do trade Cousins, which won't happen this year, because of RGIII's injury concerns, I would much rather have a 3rd string QB that has a chance of being a quality spot starter and backup next year. Tebow will never be that guy. Hence my post above about drafting a project QB that will be ready next year when we trade Cousins.

BTW Your fascination with both Tebow and Skelton is just as bad as mine with John Beck. All 3 have proven that they're horrible QB's that have no business ever touching a football during a live game. lol  


   
FFWolf1195
SinceMar 28, 2007
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February 28, 2013 8:52 am

 I think Tebow would be a GREAT fit as RGIII's back-up. I mean lets be honest here, When Griffin went down and Cousins came in we had to completly change the offense back to a traditional pro set style. Our success on Offense in my opinion was 55% Griffin 45 % offensive scheme and playcalling. Now thats not to say Tebow could come in and produce like RG3 could because he is nowhere near Griffins talent level but i still believe our offense would be more effective with Tebow running the pistol as opposed to Cousins running a Pro set or I formation.


  I like Cousins & I think he could be a excellent QB but this team won the division because of creative playcalling and offensive scheme which were excuted to perfection by RGIII and Alfred Morris's running.  
Crackerman6.1
SinceJun 18, 2010
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March 1, 2013 8:23 am

Actually Crackerman, the point is to try to move away from the Pistol offense if at all possible. We want to cut WAY down on the number of runs RGIII does. Yes, an occasional run to keep the defense honest is nice, but we don't want him running any more than necessary. Remember, with the exception of the last play he played, every time he was hurt was when he was outside the pocket. I want them to fix the OL enough so that he can have a relatively secure pocket and develop him as a pocket passer. He'll last a lot longer if he doesn't run as much.

BTW, once again, yes Tebow might be able to run a little bit, but in no way shape or form should he have anything to do with throwing the ball. I don't want a career -50% passer doing anything that involves passing the ball. Tebow should be converted to either a TE or a FB. He has no future in the NFL as a QB. I really wish people would wake up and realize that. :(
FFWolf1195
SinceMar 28, 2007
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March 1, 2013 10:28 am

He has no future in the NFL as a QB. I really wish people would wake up and realize that.
you are 100% right why would anyone want a young backup QB who has won 70% of his NFL starts including leading his team to the playoffs with a win over the Steelers.

a guy like that will never have a place on my team.

this argument really is dumb.  Tim Tebow is a winner in the NFL and someone will be lucky to get hm on the cheap.

sampson
SinceMar 4, 2007
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March 1, 2013 11:14 am

you are 100% right why would anyone want a young backup QB who has won 70% of his NFL starts including leading his team to the playoffs with a win over the Steelers.

Tebow's record as a starter in the NFL is 8-6 and 1-1 in the playoffs that's 9-7, hardly a 70% winning percentage.  I don't want to get into all this again with you BSam as we already hashed it out a while back about Tebow but what would you call a QB that went 13-3 on season?  Yeah we have him on our roster already, Rex Grossman and he BLOWS rhino!  Sometimes it's not all about winning percentage.  Tebow is under a 50% compl. passer.  That is horrible.

Having said this, I do like the guy and I know he can be a winner with a VERY good D backing him (like Grossman in Chicago).  The one thing about Tebow is as horrible of a thrower he is he can be an effective runner in the play-action and pistol and read-option O.  He would be effective in this O if our D could play like the Broncos' D did in 2011.  We'd win and win ugly especially if Forbath could kick those 60+ yarders at the end of regulation or OT.

My point is that IF RG3 won't be ready I'd still roll with Cousins but instead of Grossman being back there I'd rather have Tebow.  He'd probably be cheaper than Grossman as well.  Only problem is he brings that circus to town, media circus that is and we'd be like the Jets 2.0
SkinsFanOttawa
SinceDec 17, 2007
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March 1, 2013 12:39 pm

Tebow's record as a starter in the NFL is 8-6 and 1-1 in the playoffs that's 9-7, hardly a 70% winning percentage
what was he in his last season in denver?  he took over a what 0-4 team went 8-4 (plus 1-1) in the playoffs


I don't want to get into all this again with you BSam
so don't


Only problem is he brings that circus to town
this is the Redskins...when is the circus not in town?  how many news stories have you seen about RG3 and will he/won't he be ready for week 1.

My point is that IF RG3 won't be ready I'd still roll with Cousins but instead of Grossman being back there I'd rather have Tebow

The one thing about Tebow is as horrible of a thrower he is he can be an effective runner in the play-action and pistol and read-option O.
so if you are agreeing with me, then why are you arguing with me?


I am not stupid I know what Tim Tebow is/isn't at this point in his career

he is not a good thrower....but neither was Donovan McNabb
he has proven he can win....throw the great defense card out all you want and i will simply come back with this question....if tim tebow is so bad and that defense is so good and that is the reason that they made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, then explain why Peyton Manning and that incredible defense made it to the same exact spot?















sampson
SinceMar 4, 2007
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March 1, 2013 2:23 pm

so if you are agreeing with me, then why are you arguing with me?

I'm not arguing just trying to have a mature conversation with you, down boy.  I don't totally agree because you want Tebow to be the backup ahead of Cousins (unless I've read you wrong) and although I'd take him on the team it would only be to replace sexy Rexy.  I'd only want to see Tebow on the field if RG3 AND Cousins were hurt, as a last resort.
SkinsFanOttawa
SinceDec 17, 2007
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March 2, 2013 8:02 am

No, I never said ahead of cousins (but I am not sold on cousins).... What I have said is that you have a talented young QB who fits your offense and has proven he can win. Why not bring him in and see if the shannahans can teach him to be a QB. Assuming cousins is not traded, in my opinion the Redskins 3 QBs are RG3 Kirk Cousins and a developmental guy (we don't need a retread veteran like Rex Grossman). So is your developmental guy a 7th rd pick or a guy like Tim Tebow. And what's even better about tebow is that he has proven (maybe shown is a more true statement) he can win with a sandlot style. That is even more valuable because your 3rd guy won't get reps at practice
sampson
SinceMar 4, 2007
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March 2, 2013 5:27 pm

What I have said is that you have a talented young QB who fits your offense and has proven he can win.
Once again Sampson, you just continue to prove you know nothing. 

The Broncos TEAM won those games, not just Tebow. Sure, he had a few good plays, but the defense played extremely well and kept the other teams from scoring. The other teams collapsed several times and if Marion Barber wasn't such an idiot, they don't even make the playoffs. That has nothing to do with Tebow. As for the playoffs, if the Steelers DB's don't completely blow the coverage, he doesn't even win one game in the playoffs.

Wake the hell up and realize Tebow is NOT a talented QB. He has no business being a QB in the NFL. Sure, he has a winning record, but the same used to be said about Grossman, but that doesn't mean either of them are really any good. It means they had good teams around them that helped carry them to those wins.

Tebow is a horrible passer. He has no business throwing the ball. Yes, he can run, but take that away from him and he is such a huge liability that no team will want him as their QB. At least not for long. 

So please, can we just stop with the stupidity of this arguement. Tebow would be nothing but a huge freaking distraction for this team and we do NOT need it this year. Cousins is a far better QB then Tebow will ever be and Tebow would bring nothing to the QB position for this team. So just stop it already.       


  
FFWolf1195
SinceMar 28, 2007
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March 2, 2013 6:08 pm

Wolf, if it was all the defense then why did the Broncos make it just as far with Peyton Manning as they did with Tim Tebow?
sampson
SinceMar 4, 2007
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March 5, 2013 4:07 pm

Sign him as a FullBack. Keep him as the #3 emergency QB. Dump Rex Grossman. Utilize his power running. Maintain Leagues leading rushing attack w/o over using RGIII's designed runs. givce tebow like 3 or 4 trick plays a year and keep jim off punt proctection duties. 
earl_d_goat
SinceSep 1, 2006
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March 5, 2013 4:08 pm

jim should have been "him"... shoulda proof read.  
earl_d_goat
SinceSep 1, 2006
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March 5, 2013 7:25 pm

Sign him as a FullBack.
your idea is to dump darrell young and have a QB lead block for the #2 rusher in the NFL?

Utilize his power running.
the guy has never taken a handoff but you want to utilize him primarily as a runner?
sampson
SinceMar 4, 2007