Mark May comments on Manti Te'o

Well the dumb ass Mark May is at it again. He tweeted that any GM that takes Te'o in the first round should be fired. He also claims he's a mid to late 2nd round pick at best. This guy is a complete d1ck! As a journalist,(I say that very loosely) he should be somewhat objective. His hatred for ND is making him look like a fool!

He is a joke.  I dont pay attention to him anymore.  

That's true.


But by now aren't we all use to it? The hate for Notre Dame is widely known, I'm use to it now.


I can't believe people are still running Te'o into the ground. He didn't commit any crime, and last I checked, I hear nothing about the Alabama program that just had some players arrested.     

Now all the Te'o haters are using his 40 time at the combine to run him down.  4.8?  How much faster do you have to be?  And they were praising the speed of another linebacker who ran it eighteen HUNDREDTHS of a second faster.  I wonder what Dick Butkus' time in the 40 was?  And who would have had the guts to mention it to him? 

P.S.  We all know Mark May is a dick; nothing he says should surprise.

I love Notre Dame football as much as the rest of you. That being said I happen to somewhat agree with Mark May. I don't think Te'o is a first rounder. He'll get his chance at pro day to improve his forty time and if he doesn't improve it even Bill Polian said that would put him in a two down linebacker slot. While I root for Te'o I do think he has been somewhat over-hyped. Mark May doesn't always choose the best of words and at times does say some silly things but I simply think he's more right than wrong here.

If Te'o improves his forty time and does well on the bench I think he will go and should go late in the first round. If he doesn't he will not. His whole off field situation to me was much to do about nothing, either the kid can play or he can't. I simply see him as a second round type player, not saying he isn't going to be good but I am saying I don't think he will be a standout. He's no Brian Urlacher, Urlacher was 20 plus pounds heavier and ran a 4.5. Te'o isn't ripped, he doesn't have stellar speed and I don't think he'll take over game. I see Manti being a A.J. Hawk type player, solid but not spectacular, Hawk was a top fifteen pick and has had a decent career.

The Green Bay Packer's have a need for linebacker but in all honesty I don't want Ted Thompson to take Te'o with the 26th pick. I could be wrong but I've been right more often when it comes to players I have seen play throughout their college career. I root for Te'o and I sincerely hope he proves me wrong. Mark May may be outspoken at times but he's not a dummy, his choice of words many times are not the best ones but that being said he does know football and is entitled to his opinion. I don't agree with how he worded it that if a GM took him in the first round that he should be fired but I do tend to agree Te'o is looking more like a second round pick. I thought that throughout the season and I think it now. Like I said if he goes out and proves he can run 4.6 or faster he will changes peoples minds.

Te'o's personal life was dragged through the mud, I thought the entire story was a farce. I think he is shy hetersexual young man who got into a unfortunate situation but thought the way they dragged the story out was horrible. Even if he is gay I completely don't care, that's his business but one I don't tend to think is the fact. I think he is a shy, naive , socially awkward LDS and there is nothinng wrong with that and I think he did a fine job representing Notre Dame and Notre Dame football. I sincerely hope he becomes a star.

May is an idiot.   That being said, the big thing that hurts Teo is the MLB position is not as valuable in todays game as speed rushing DE/OLBs, DL or CB's.  Teams that play a 4-3 covet DT's/DE's the most and 3-4 teams covet OLB over MLB.  The evolution of spread formation and pass catching TE's has hurt MLB draft status for a few years now.  He needs to prove he can cover RB's and TE's.  There wont be any DRobs in the NFL throwing easy pics his way, unless he is playing my Jets with Sanchez at the helm..lol.  To me, Teo will prob go in last half of 1st rd-early 2nd rd. 

Side note....Motta and Riddick stunk it up.  Wood seemed to do alright.  Eifert proved to be the best TE.  Still trying to figure out why Cave didn't participate in the bench press.  He prob would've finished in the top 5 in that category. 

Actually Wood did very good...Riddick stunk and Eiffert was nails.....

Manti will be a solid NFL player...nothing great but solid.....its a shame all this happened to a great kid....He will get through it and be better for it...

Great posts/points by everyone.  

I guess my biggest problem is with May himself.  He can't put his hatred aside to objectively discuss what he feels are strengths and weaknesses on anything Notre Dame. 

Instead, he blasts Manti!  


I won't be a complete homer and say he's a solid 1st round pick, bar none!  But AT BEST a low 2nd rounder??  I think he's a steal in the high to mid 2nd.  I personally think if he falls to Baltimore late 1st, they take him, just my opinion.  If Ozzie Newsome takes him, I'd LOVE to see May run his mouth and say Newsome should be fired!!! One of the best GM's in the NFL!!

As a journalist, Mark May has failed in my opinion. I'd LOVE for him to objectively talk about Notre Dame without a smartass comment or belittling them.  

On another note, I saw Eifert a little and thought he was solid.  He'll be a great pro TE!!  

  

It doesn't really matter if Manti is drafted at 30 or 40 or even 50. He will make several million in his rookie contract, and have no financial worries, if he is smart about it. The first 67 picks in the 2012 draft had contracts of $3 mil or more. The first 40 picks in 2012 had signing bonuses of $2 mil or more, plus the rest of the contract's value if they stick.

If he plays well, he will get exactly what he is worth in his second deal, the deal where most solid players make their major dough.

I just listened what Mark May said, I simply agree with him. Forget the time I thought Te'o looked pudgy and it looked like he was wearing diving weights running. He may turn out to be a good player but I would be suprised to see him be a huge difference maker, he simply is no shoe in and that is what you expect with a first rounder.

Being a huge Notre Dame fan I still like Mark May and respect him.

To be fair who cares about his top speed he is a LB.  His cone drill wasnt bad and that is a better drill to look at for a LB.  That measures a players change of speed.  That is more important for a LB.  

The kid lost 15lbs.  if he was a OLB then I would be worried. 

Who cares how fast he ren? NFL G.M's care how fast he ran. Polian said right out the number is 4.7 or better to be a three down linebacker. If he runs a 4.8 at his pro day believe me they will care big time. The two tenths of a second is the difference between making a play and not making a play. If would be somewhat different if he came in and lifted real well but he didn't even lift. Compare the Packer's A.J. Hawk to the Niners linebackers, are you really trying to tell me speed doesn't matter that much. Manti's pro day will be everything for him. If his results don't improve his stock plummets.

He lost fifteen pounds and ran two to three tenths slower than what he claims he runs at a much lighter weight. That does't concern you? I am not jumping on his case but seriously at fifteen pounds lighter did he looked ripped or chiseled or did he look pudgy and slow. He looked pudgy and slow. He has about a month to rectify his results and improve upon them. Trust me all eyes are on him to improve or plummet. I am rooting for him but I am also a realist.

he simply is no shoe in and that is what you expect with a first rounder

There are no shoe-ins after the cream of the crop is drafted in the first 10-15 picks. Even up there, we see speculation as to whether a guy will make it in the NFL.

To be fair who cares about his top speed he is a LB.

Two things in response. First, the 40 yard dash is more a measure acceleration than top speed. The 100 yard dash is a much better measure of top speed. He clocked a 4.81 in the 40 because of a slow start. LBs are often switching between pass and run defense as they read a play. Play action forces them to think run and cheat toward the line to plug a gap or pursue outside, but they often have to switch to pass defense after a fake handoff. Acceleration is everything for a LB. Those who don't have it give the QB an easier pass to a TE, RB or WR covered by the LB who is late switching to pass protection.

Top speed is more important to a CB who needs to match a speedy WR and cover a lot of territory, sometimes 50+ yards. If the WR gets separation downfield because of a cut or a double move, top speed is the saving grace to close the gap before the ball gets there. Manti doesn't need top speed as much as acceleration.

That is why the Cone drill is better then his 40 time.  its not that big of a deal for a MLB.  Yes dont get me wrong faster is better but overall in my opinion its not a big deal.  He was ok in everything else and the guy makes plays.  He had 1 bad game and thats because he mind was all over the place and people thinks he stinks.  He led LBs in turnovers.  Before the NC game they recorded that he only had 4 missed tackles. 

Te'o will be fine.  He might not be a star in the NFL but he will be a solid starter.   

His performance against Alabama is what's ultimately killing him.


If he would have had a good game with 8 to 10 tackles and didn't look silly missing tackles, then GM's wouldn't be as worried about his 40 time. But when you add his 40 time with the last game he played in college football. problems start to show.


Te'o has had an awful ending to his college career. I'm pulling for him, and I hope this trend doesn't continue for him heading into the NFL.  

 

Mark May hates Notre Dame. he has never had anything good to say about the irish. Total Jackass....

Mark May is right more often than he is wrong in analyzing football in general.  But when it comes to anything ND related, he comes off as a collossal pompous ass and windbag.  One of the best parts of this season was watching him run his schtick with Lou every week, predict doom and gloom for ND or have it on upset alert, only to have to eat crow during the college football final segment, culminating with him wearing that ridiculous leprechaun outfit.  I wish many more years of that to come.

I am not sure where Teo belongs anymore in the draft.  A good 40 time would have helped, but its not everything.  They are probably more concerned with his acceleration, which in reviewing the tape, maxed out at about 20 yards, which for an ILB in the pros is not terrible, but its not going to turn him into a "must have" player to justify a first round selection.  I always figured he was a late first round pick at best but he'll probably go in Rd. 2.  He is not a late 2 round pick at best and that is just May trying to be provocative, I just discounted that remark as lame old schtick. 

Yes, he could turn it around on pro day, but my understanding is, he lightened up for the combine to run the 40 and DNP in the bench press.  I think his plan was to bulk up for pro day and do the bench press but not the 40.  May have to reevaluate those plans, but he was about 7 lbs lighter than his listed weight this season at the combine.