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January 30, 2013 7:21 pm


Red...how many times do I need to post that the problems we face in this country are ones shared by both sides of the aisle?

And yet all you do is harp about what the dems have done.  Why is that?  Especially when in fact most of our problems fall on the shoulders of the Republicans.

***No, actually I have posted repub failures as well...but, you only seem to remember my dem criticisms...just above is another admission of a right critique...


  I agree with you on the welfare issue...I see people who aren't capable of ever working and for four years can't qualify for SS? I also see people that are very capable of work that have had it for years...


Entitlement reform must get done...we can't afford the constant increase of recipients...

And here's where you fail.  We will continue to see an increased  number of recipients.  Allow me to give you and example.  Some of our returning vets.  Due to the loss of limbs many returning vets cannot work.  Due to metal issues many of our returning vets cannot work.  These are the people that may be on entitlements forever.  you may have forgotten that due to the Clinton reforms, most welfare recipients can only be on welfare for five years.  So, who are you talking about when you're suggestiing the "increase of recipients"?

***Red...I'm not talking about our vets at all...They are the only ones IMO that they shouldn't be questioned on deserved benefits...I'm talking of able bodied ones milking the system...do you know you can have all max bennies and still make up to $1000 / month without issue from the feds? Nice huh?
 


I too see unfair tax advantages...the difference in your view vs mine is simple...you make mention to Mitt's tax rate..why is it his name always comes up and for whatever reason he has become the poster child for unfair tax rates? I see guys like Warren Buffet doing the same exact thing yet this president embraces him. I see corporations like GE that pay nothing yet this president embraces them and its CEO...I believe loopholes ( like You ) ought to be closed so this kind of crap stops...

Except good old Warren has been very open about that he sould in fact pay more taxes.  He cited his executive secratary having to pay more taxes than he does.  Even though you may not agree with this--Mitt became the "poster boy" on taxes simply because Mitt only cared about playing the system with his money.

***Lol...seriously? You are smart enough to understand the difference...Buffet pays way more than his sec...the difference not reported correctly were the rates of taxation...its all over the net if you choose to learn something tonight... 

On military spending...I too belive the use of drones is a good thing. Any time we can eliminate or reduce the danger of our soldiers is a good thing...I also believe we spend too much and our allies ought to pony up more funding for their defense...my problem is the drastic cuts facing us will have an adverse affect on our security. A more gradual reduction of spending is more prudent. The idea that over 43,000 military personel cut with a crappy economy will have another uptick on welfare spending...with no hiring in sight...

If we are going to cut spending across the board, then in fact the military HAS to be part of the process.  If you expect a more "gradual approach to cuts then you should expect the same approach to all entitlement programs as well. However having stated that , the retirement for our military is after 20 years.  My sister just retired @ 57. and she isn't hurting. She was/is an enlistment retiree so I don't believe your number of 43000 living in poverty. 

***Agreed...gradual cuts across the board...ok


I also believe we need to work together...demonizing the opposition at every opportunity doesn't set the groundwork to do so...Repubs=bad...Dems=bad has not accomplished anything and just set us back...

I just showed to you about the fallacy regarding cutting our military.  And you still believe militery cuts should be gradual?  Yet unless I'm guessing wrong, you want all other cuts to be done in a more prudent manner as in faster?  Can't and won't buy it. 

***See above...

BTW, have you an idea what drastic cuts to military will do?  

  



 

    


 

    

 

 



  
TOYOTA/SUX
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January 30, 2013 7:23 pm

after the board's smartest poster 5 day rant about how libs have ruined every city they control  everyone fleeing from Ny and calif because the libtards have ruined them

Not that I doubt toys mental accruity but I googled and stumbled on a study that ranked standard of living for big cities

10 Orange county  calif  Surprised

9  Truckee, Nev
8   Washington DC  Surprised

7 Stamford CT
6  San Jose  calif  Surprised
5 Queens  New york  Surprised
4 San Fancisco  calif   Surprised
3 Honolulu  Surprised  No wonder why the muzzie in the white house claims to be from there

2 Brooklyn New York  Surprised

1 Manhatten New York  Surprised


Surprised
secfan48
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January 30, 2013 7:25 pm

meant to put san Jose  Cailf  in bold  

Surprised
secfan48
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January 30, 2013 7:45 pm

Of course you are only concerned with standard of living...but which ones are run the best...is that three dem cities on the bottom?



The 3 best-run cities in the US:

 
1. Virginia Beach, Va.

  • Violent crime per 1,000 people: 1.88 (8th-lowest)
  • Poverty rate: 7.5% (3rd-lowest)
  • Adult population that graduated from high school: 93.1% (5th-highest)
  • Credit rating: Aaa (negative outlook)
  • Population: 439,172

Virginia Beach is, by our measurement, the best-run city in the U.S. Located on the eastern shore of Virginia, the city is one of the most prosperous in the country. Out of the 100 largest cities, it has among the 10 lowest rates of violent crime, unemployment, and poverty. It's also among the 10 best for median income, high school graduation and health insurance coverage. Moody's listed Virginia Beach's three main strengths as a "large and diverse tax base stabilized by the presence of military bases," the city’s "strong and carefully managed financial position" and "comprehensive financial policies and conservative budgeting approach." The city’s credit rating is a perfect Aaa.

 

2. Irvine, Calif.

  • Violent crime per 1,000 people: 0.55 (5th-lowest)
  • Poverty rate: 12.3% (9th-lowest)
  • Adult population graduated from high school: 95.7% (2nd-highest)
  • Credit rating: None
  • Population: 212,982

Irvine has a violent crime rate of just 0.55 per 1,000 people, the fifth-lowest score among the major cities on our list. The city is also among the 10 best for home vacancy, unemployment, median income and high school graduation. In 2008, CNN Money rated it the fourth-best place to live in the U.S. According to Craig Reem, the director of public affairs and communications, "we are seeing a gradual improvement in our local economy that allows us to move from recession-ready to recovery-ready. The City Council plans conservatively: This past fiscal year (2010-2011), we outperformed our budget expectations by nearly $14 million."
 
3. Madison, Wis.

  • Violent crime per 1,000 people: 3.92 (21st-lowest)
  • Poverty rate: 18.7% (40th-lowest)
  • Adult population graduated from high school: 95.1% (3rd-highest)
  • Credit rating: Aaa (stable outlook)
  • Population: 233,777

Madison, the other capital city on our list, was incorporated in the mid-1800. Madison is not a particularly wealthy city, with a median household income of just more than $50,000. Nevertheless, the capital has a perfect Aaa (stable) credit rating, as well as extremely low unemployment and home vacancy rates. Madison city administrative analyst Tim Fruit says, "Over the past few years, we have really made a significant effort toward more carefully planning our six-year capital improvement program. In the past, the out years were not well scrutinized. Now we try to analyze and balance the out years much more carefully."

The 3 worst-run cities in the US:

 

1. Miami, Fla.

  • Violent crime per 1,000 people: 11.08 (13th-highest)
  • Poverty rate: 32.4% (5th-highest)
  • Adult population graduated from high school: 68.2% (4th-lowest)
  • Credit rating: A2 (stable outlook)
  • Population: 400,892

According to a 2011 UBS study, Miami is the richest city in the country and the fourth-richest city in the world by domestic purchasing power. However, a 2011 study by the Census Bureau found the Miami metropolitan area also had the second-highest income inequality rate in the nation -- probably due to the incredibly high percentage of households living in poverty. Despite the city's wealth, Miami's median household income of $27,291 is the third-smallest among the 100 biggest cities. Its poverty rate of 32.4% is the fifth-highest. The city faces a handful of other problems. Only 68.2% of adults have a high school diploma or more -- the fourth-lowest rate. Also, 22.5% of housing units are vacant, which is the fifth-highest percentage. A 2011 Brookings Institute report put Miami among the 20 weakest-performing metropolitan statistical areas in the country with regards to recovering from the recession, due in large part to the crash of its housing market.

 
2. Detroit, Mich.

  • Violent crime per 1,000 people: 18.87 (the highest)
  • Poverty rate: 37.6% (the highest)
  • Adult population graduated from high school: 77.4% (18th-lowest)
  • Credit rating: Ba3 (on review)
  • Population: 711,910

Despite being more notorious for its troubles than any other major U.S. city, Detroit managed to avoid the title of worst-run city in the country. The city has been in a tough spot for decades, but continued problems with corruption and poor management have not helped matters. Detroit already sports the worst credit rating awarded by Moody's and is the only one of the 100 largest cities in the U.S. to have a rating below investment grade. Worse still, the agency is reviewing the Ba3 rating, which already had a negative outlook, after the state of Michigan announced that it's evaluating whether the city's troubles constitute an economic crisis. Of the 100 largest cities, Detroit has the highest home vacancy rate, the highest unemployment rate, the highest poverty rate, the worst violent crime rate and the lowest median household income.

3. Newark, N.J.

  • Violent crime per 1,000 people: 10.29 (21st-highest)
  • Poverty rate: 30.2% (10th-highest)
  • Adult population graduated from high school: 69.2% (6th-lowest)
  • Credit rating: A3 (negative outlook)
  • Population: 277,232

Newark has a very high rate of poverty, reaching 30.2% in 2010. Its median household income is $32,043, the ninth-lowest among the 100 largest cities. Less than 70% of the adult population has a high school diploma or more — the sixth-lowest rate. Meanwhile, Newark's violent crime rate has been increasing. In late November 2010, the city laid off nearly 15% of its police force. By May 2011, the annual homicide rate had increased by a stunning 65%. Robberies, burglaries and thefts increased as well

TOYOTA/SUX
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January 30, 2013 7:57 pm

Miami, Fla.
Newark, N.J

damn that Christie.  He is not doing his job.
BostonBeaner
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January 30, 2013 7:58 pm

Thanks CBS where is the rest of my post.
BostonBeaner
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January 30, 2013 8:26 pm

of course you are only concerned with standard of living

I know      standard of living is a piss poor yardstick to measure quality of life

and as your claim that people are leaving cal and ny en masse, those folks must be almost as stupid as you

fleeing from their residences because of the high standard of living
secfan48
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January 30, 2013 9:51 pm

So Al the Whore Gore was on the today show promoting his latest money grab, I mean book.

To his credit, Matt Lauer did not let him off easy, and when Gore dodged, Matt kept repeating the same questions.

I did almost fall off the treadmill when Gore called al jezerra a established and credible news network.

And then defended the Middle East Oil governments for their Global Warming awareness.

But he would have made a great president!
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I overheard the entire thing, i was running abt getting ready for the day.

I would say Lauer came off like the Republican lapdog he has sadly become. What do you care abt Al Jazaeera buying CurrentTV ? What about the 'free markets' and all that other nonsense? Well, i guess I'm a true believer if noone else is.

They have a decent news show, no more biased than RT News , the BBC or other foreign outfits and it's halfway informative.

Gore came off OK in my book.



 
PROFESSOR
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January 30, 2013 9:58 pm



Blut ist dicker als Wasser.
Hop0nPop
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January 30, 2013 9:59 pm

Blood is thicker than water.
Hop0nPop
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January 30, 2013 9:59 pm

I gotta stick by my kin.
Hop0nPop
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January 30, 2013 9:59 pm

Cousin Al.
Hop0nPop
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January 31, 2013 5:48 am

OC Register-

Deroy Murdock: People go where taxes are low


The only thing more stunning than tax-hiking politicians is their unswerving faith that taxpayers, especially wealthy ones, simply will smile and surrender even more of their money. This fundamental misunderstanding of human nature is impervious to mounting evidence that taxpayers go where taxes are low.

French President Francois Hollande thought he could impose a 75 percent top tax rate and simply watch revenues flow into Paris like the Seine. Instead, actor Gerard Depardieu rushed into the loving arms of Vladimir Putin and Russia's 13 percent flat tax. Former French President Nikolai Sarkozy reportedly may move to London to escape Hollande's thievery.

  • Last year, a record 1,788 Americans renounced their citizenship, mainly in favor of countries with lower taxes and friendlier political rhetoric.

Golf great Phil Mickelson generated headlines this week when he suggested that high taxes might drive him from his native California or perhaps America.

"There are going to be some drastic changes for me," Mickelson said.

"If you add up all the federal (levies) and you look at the disability and the unemployment and the [Social Security], and the state, my tax rate's 62, 63 percent." Imagine keeping just 37 cents of every dollar you earn. Is that a fair share?

Travis Brown, author of "How Money Walks," demonstrates how Americans between 1995 and 2010 shifted some $2 trillion in wealth by abandoning California, Illinois, New Jersey and other high-tax states and unpacking in low-tax states such as Florida, Nevada and Texas.

"After spending several years mapping and analyzing these data, one correlation keeps popping up: Income moves to where it is most welcome, tax-wise," Brown writes. "Money walks because opportunity talks."

As I observe in Brown's book, this reality is undeniable among the Empire State and its neighbors. "I have identified the most compelling incentive of all," Paychex Inc. chairman Tom Golisano wrote in the New York Post. "Move out of New York State." Golisano spent about 90 minutes transferring his voter [registration], driver's license and domicile certificate to Florida. "By domiciling in Florida, which has no personal income tax, I will save $13,800 every day. That's a pretty strong incentive."

One-way traffic from the Empire State to the Sunshine State is so steady that Harrington [Moving and Storage] specializes in easing that exodus. "Our professionals work hard to ensure that you don't have to during your move from New York to Florida," boasts the Maplewood, N.J., company's website. "You can rest assured knowing that your New York-to-Florida move will be smooth, relaxing and seamless throughout."

Connecticut still is smarting over the relocation of hedge-fund manager Edward Lampert. With an estimated net worth of $3 billion, according to Forbes, Lampert was considered the fifth-wealthiest man in the Nutmeg State. In August 2011, Connecticut increased taxes by $875 million, retroactively to that January. It cut the maximum [property tax] credit from $500 to $300 and lifted its top state income tax rate from 6.5 percent to 6.7 percent. Then, on June 1, 2012, Lampert moved his company, ESL Investments, to Florida. Lampert also took with him the $10.6 billion that ESL reportedly controlled at that time.

Supply-side economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore found similar unintended consequences after New Jersey boosted its top tax rate from 6.35 percent to 8.97 percent. As they wrote in the Wall Street Journal, "Examining data from a 2008 Princeton study on the New Jersey tax hike on the wealthy, we found that there were 4,000 missing half-millionaires in New Jersey after that tax took effect." State deficits soon erupted like Jersey barriers beside a ditch.

Politicians should always remember that taxpayers are not oak trees. Shake them too hard, and they and their money soon will be gone with the wind.

 


I would really like to hear the ocmments of others on this-  can you even argue it?

You keep raising taxes so the rich guys just leave-  now you got nothing.  Or course, they leave.  It's not that great anywhere if you are getting robbed.
 
Hop0nPop
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January 31, 2013 7:46 am

Yet people hollar about Equality but when anyone suggest that everyone be taxed equally they scream bloody murder.  Why?  Why are people jealous of what other people have or how much they have.  A flat tax across the country would treat everyone equal.  If you had to pay say 10% of your earnings and the same thing for Bill Gates then what would it matter.  10% of of 50K = 5K but 10% of 1 billion would be 100 million now wouldn't that be a great trade off? 

I would propose a flat tax with only one deduction, the first 25K you earn period.  Nothing for the number of kids you have, nothing for medical, nothing for house interest, just the first 25K.  So if you make 100K per year, your tax rate would be $7,500.00.  If you wife makes $22,000 per year her rate would be $0.00,  But you cannot combine her deduction with yours.  In other words each individual would file their own tax no combining deduction.  So if you made 28K and your wife 18K that would equal 46K total, but you would still owe $300 in taxes as that is 10% of the $3000 you made over your 25K deduction.
mikeyfan1599
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January 31, 2013 7:54 am

Yet people hollar about Equality but when anyone suggest that everyone be taxed equally they scream bloody murder.  Why?  Why are people jealous of what other people have or how much they have.  A flat tax across the country would treat everyone equal.  If you had to pay say 10% of your earnings and the same thing for Bill Gates then what would it matter.  10% of of 50K = 5K but 10% of 1 billion would be 100 million now wouldn't that be a great trade off? 

I would propose a flat tax with only one deduction, the first 25K you earn period.  Nothing for the number of kids you have, nothing for medical, nothing for house interest, just the first 25K.  So if you make 100K per year, your tax rate would be $7,500.00.  If you wife makes $22,000 per year her rate would be $0.00,  But you cannot combine her deduction with yours.  In other words each individual would file their own tax no combining deduction.  So if you made 28K and your wife 18K that would equal 46K total, but you would still owe $300 in taxes as that is 10% of the $3000 you made over your 25K deduction.
lol...fairness?

Mikey this concept is too simple for them to understand...

it would hurt those that currently PAY NOTHING...

skin in the game? haha

its those dirty rich bastards we need to get...haven't you got the message, yet?

BTW, Great Post!
TOYOTA/SUX
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January 31, 2013 7:57 am

Miami, Fla.
Newark, N.J

damn that Christie.  He is not doing his job.

That would be Cory Booker...and what a wonderful job he is doing...lol
TOYOTA/SUX
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January 31, 2013 8:01 am

of course you are only concerned with standard of living

I know      standard of living is a piss poor yardstick to measure quality of life

and as your claim that people are leaving cal and ny en masse, those folks must be almost as stupid as you

fleeing from their residences because of the high standard of living


you really aren't that bright...

so stupid...lol

people are leaving because taxation rates have gone too high...

and their tax monies are being wasted...

do you anything but WH talking points?


so simple even a former teacher from ohio should understand...
TOYOTA/SUX
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January 31, 2013 9:04 am

...is Tebow's faith an act and a charade???...if not , how are you so certain Tebow is not, but Lewis is??...Lewis certainly didn't appear as committed  and devoted 13 years ago, but you're judging him today on what he may or may not have done 13 years ago....a 24 year old vs. a 37 year old...what is the media going to get an answer to today, that hasn't been asked or answered in 13 years???...


I don't know what teabow is, largely becuase he is not as vocal, or public as Ray Lewis.  Lewis does however, have two tremendous blemishes on his record that Teabow does not.

As for the time span, it is all relevant if we are discussing his legacy.  Ray seems to only want to media to focus on the positive.  If Ray is going to have the big my final season tour/Ray Lewis legacy tour, then his whole legacy comes into play.

But getting back to teabow, the two really are not even comnparable.  What is Teabow compared to Ray?  Ray is quite possibly the best ever to play his position, and a larger than life figure.  Teabow is a side show, back-up QB that could not even get the nod over Mark Sanchez.

Gastrapod
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January 31, 2013 9:10 am

EVERY ATHLETE??...NO EXCEPTION??...BUT YOU DON'T CARE??...soooooo...what would have been the answer that would have been satisfactory to you...and ended the discussion...given you have no evidence on him other than your "belief", kinda like the "belief" #52 has in his creator, which you think is a charade.....or did Wiki, and Ms. Welker tell you it is so??...lol



What kind of evidence do you want?  I refuse to take the Baseball purist attitude of he never failed a test, so you have to assume they are clean. 

BS.

And for the record, Wes Welker blew out his ACL, and came back not missing a step in 10 months.  No way am I buying that was 100% clean either.

And in regards to ray's denial.  One of his former coaches, now a media personality, flat out admitted to the media he personally introduced Ray to the guy making the claim he sold Ray PEDs.




Gastrapod
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January 31, 2013 9:14 am

gas, I like increasing income rate and reducing the sales tax rate.  Are you surprised?  I know that you will not like them.  I am aslo glad that he has been plans to improve MA economy.  I have not kept up on other taxes but at least MA wants to pay for what they spend.  Wish the US Congress would do the same

And as I pointed out, it is not a reduction of the sales tax at all.  It is reducing the rate while increasing the number of goods it is applied to.  So in summation, you will pay less in the next year on any given item than before, but pay total for the year more in sales tax than the year before.

But that is the problem isn't BB.  Spending to much, and then bleeding the tax payer.  And these are just two, as other taxes he plans to raise as well. 
Gastrapod
SinceFeb 18, 2008