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February 15, 2013 4:32 pm

This man ( Dorner )...in his own words said he was for Obama ...

...just as 90+% of the black population is....so he was actually pretty much in line with most blacks in his politics....had he said he was anti-Obama, then you would be running with that as a black man that was fed up with the President's policies and rightfully lashing out against Obama's policies...so it wouldn't have mattered either way for you, you would have linked it to Obama in some way...what does Obama or any party affiliation have to do with a grievance for wrongful termination for Dorner back in 2008??...he told you in the manifesto what his issues were...the LAPD,  his wrongful termination, and the blue code of silence ...again what does that have to do with Obama or any party affiliation??..

bsting3d
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 15, 2013 4:51 pm

what does that have to do with Obama or any party affiliation??..

His skin color, it seems. 
CZIMMY07
SinceSep 28, 2007
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February 15, 2013 5:00 pm

CBS Sports put my thread back up.

Whoops! I thought she was a burgla...


I guess the famous troll gang had ruined it. 
Hop0nPop
SinceJun 21, 2009
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February 15, 2013 5:46 pm

You soiled it youself.
CZIMMY07
SinceSep 28, 2007
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February 15, 2013 7:09 pm

Is that #6 trying to talk up to #2?
Hop0nPop
SinceJun 21, 2009
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February 15, 2013 7:49 pm

I have to disagree with that.  Imo, it makes no sense to separate streamlining depts in govt from getting them to run effeciently.  I certainly do not agree that there must be some strict "additional money first, then we can talk cuts" mantra.  Imo, that's no different than the GOP's "cuts only, then we can talk additional revenues" policy.


Nathan and I disagree.  MY local post office has had these swiped credit card machines for a decade and they still aren't up and running properly.  I have been told and I believe the psotal workers that said this is that the biggest reason is the fact that the postal service does not have the sophisticated computer system/network to use the machines. 

If the current system used in Medicare could process 4 times the number of claims and multi-task while doing it, wouldn't it make sense to purchase the machines get them working and then make your staff cuts?  You'd never know who to eliminate, what to eliminate or how many to eliminate until said system is up and running first..  Efficiency isn't about just cutting manpower/the number of jobs it's having the equipment to be more efficient in the first place. 

The optimal solution is to go through everything, piece by piece, figure out what is working, what isn't, what is needed, what isn't, where the overlap exists, what could be done away with, what could be done more effectively, what could be done more efficiently, and overhaul the whole shebang, while still giving the individual attention that makes such transitions most effective.

Nathan, I don't think you're honestly looking or understanding the two "E" WORDS--EFFECTIVE/EFFICIENT.  Maybe you don't agree with this but to be effective and efficient, you need the right equipment to do so.  Here I'll give you a blatant expample from the private sector.  Banking.  You use your debit card and buy a $100 purchase within an hour that money is subtracted from your account....oh it might say "pending" and yet no longer than 24 hours that money is gone from my accout.  And yet if I deposit a $50 birthday check from my niece,  it takes anywheere from three to five days to clear.  They rely on a very very efficient computer system to get my money out of my account to pay for something but they don't use that efficiency to put money into my account.  And yes most systems have the ability to do transactions both ways whether it the private sector, our military, or any other branch of our government.  Yet, it's not done.  And banks quite frnkly don't want to pay for the speed with deposits.  Our government sometimes doesn't have the money to be more efficient either.  And therefore not as effective.    
 
   
 
     
bigred472
SinceOct 24, 2006
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February 15, 2013 9:22 pm

You use your debit card and buy a $100 purchase within an hour that money is subtracted from your account....oh it might say "pending" and yet no longer than 24 hours that money is gone from my accout.  And yet if I deposit a $50 birthday check from my niece,  it takes anywheere from three to five days to clear.
 

bad example. you're comparing an electronic outbound transaction with a paper inbound transaction.

if you wrote a check instead of using a debit card for that purchase, the money would take a similar time period to be removed from your account as it takes to be deposited.

if you make a deposit with a debit card, it's won't take 3 to 5 days for the money to appear in your account.
FortheLulz
SinceSep 25, 2008
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February 15, 2013 9:47 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ILjMmfAGXQ


War Inna BabylonMax Romeo/Lee "Scratch" Perry

It sipple out deh!

War inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

Let me tell, it sipple out deh

A wha' you seh, it sipple out deh, oh yeah

War inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

It sipple out deh, wha' you seh, it sipple out deh, oh yeah

De baba men nuh like de dreadlocks man

De dreadlocks man nuh like de baba man, no

De po-lice men nuh like de dreadlocks man

De dreadlocks man nuh like de po-lice man, no

So war inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

Let me tell, it sipple out deh

A wha' you seh, it sipple out deh, oh yeah

War inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

Let me tell, it sipple out deh

A wha' you seh, it sipple out deh, oh yeah


  • When come pride then cometh shame

  • A man pride shall bring him low, yeah, oh yeah

  • Honour shall uphold the humble in spirit

  • And you know it's true, yeah , oh yeah


War inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

A wha' you seh, it sipple out deh

So wha' fe do ?we slide out deh, oh yeah

War inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

A wha' you seh, it sipple out deh

So wha' fe do ? mek we slide out deh, oh yeah

True, true, true, it sipple out deh

So wha' fe do ? mek we slide out deh, oh yeah

True, true, true, it sipple out deh

Let me tell, we slide out deh

Marcus garvey prophecise, say:

"One mus' live 10 miles away, yeah, in this time"

I-man satta at the mountain top

Watching Babylon burning red hot, red hot

War inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

A wha' you seh, it sipple out deh

So wha' fe do ?we slide out deh, oh yeah

War inna babylon, tribal war inna Babylon

A wha' you seh, it sipple out deh

So wha' fe do ? mek we slide out deh, oh yeah

True, true, true, it sipple out deh

So wha' fe do ? mek we slide out deh, oh yeah

True, true, true, it sipple out deh

Let me tell, we slide out deh

Hop0nPop
SinceJun 21, 2009
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February 15, 2013 10:45 pm

Sons of Anarchy.
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never seen it, heard good things, is it worth a Netflix purchase?


...   Parks & Rec.
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very good show

..  Workaholics
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saw one episode, it was out there, i'll say that much


...  Trailer Park Boys
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same question as eith Sons, is it worth it?

...  Reno 011
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actually went to the theater to see the movie, i'm a big fan

... Archer.
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really? that's cool, most of my other top ten shows would be animated cartoons, they rule right now. Take ur pick, King of The Hill, Simpsons, American Dad, Family Guy, Boondocks ... great rapid fire humor,  


Lately, as for dramas only watching second run shows like Gunsmoke, Fugitive, Colombo, Perry Mason, Twilight Zone .. those shows still stand the rest of time, and with a failing memory, it's like seeing them all for the first time.

Especially Colombo, his techniques are used for succesful salespeople all over the globe, if one jnows how to do it right. The key is to know when to dummy up.



 
PROFESSOR
SinceAug 15, 2006
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February 15, 2013 11:43 pm

commie   Now that you're in the top ten of posters here

I'll ask you one last time, and if you dont answer, I'll just chalk it up to you dont know

I offered some solutions to reforming DC   I've asked you for specifics about what you would do

It's time to stop with the crony capitalism mantra, people who vote for either party are stupid, people worship big government and dont realize how their rights are being taken away

Tell all of us mindless drones your solutions to changing how our government functions

Funny, secfan......top 10, huh?   Well, that proves what bigred said a while back:  I'm an elitist.......


I've posted time and again what needs to be done......seems some people have short memories.   I believe that the US is adequately protected militarily and should cut back on foreign bases--and considerably.   Foreign aid and special gifts to other nations must stop--that includes things like special deals to the Brazilian cotton growers.   We must stop domestic subsidies to industries and businesses.   Farm subsidies are a joke.   Keep education local--no need for a fed program.   The various systems in place make a federal bureaucracy in charge of funding for anything from schools to highways...toe the line, or they'll withhold funding.   This results in setting the fed bureau in concrete....gives them power of pursestrings and cements their unnecessary existence.  Stop the Solyndra-type nonsense.....stop the QE idiocy.   Tap into US domestic energy sources.  

This is a start.   Now, how do we accomplish this when the 2 big political parties put their party above the people?   Tough call.....we, as voters need to keep talking about the unwillingness of the party bosses to change business as usual.   We need to keep telling our fellow citizens that 20 trillion in debt is not acceptable--that the Fed boys need to trim down--that giving away tax dollars is not okay.   We need to elect REAL fiscal conservatives.....there has been a slight move in that direction with the Tea Party efforts.   I am not happy with the takeover of a large part of the Tea Party groups by the foreign interventionists.

I don't think that all partisans are drones.   I do think that many party people are unwilling to change--it's easier to blame the other guys for all the ills of the nation.   Dems blame Reps, Reps blame Dems.   Both resist downsizing of government programs and the spending they do.  Dr. Ron Paul had it right (imo) when he laid out a plan to cut fed programs.

Like drug addicts or those in AA, the biggest and first step to overcoming the addiction is to identify and admit the problem.   The spending addicts in DC trade money for votes.   They give money to friends.   They give money to sworn enemies.  What can we do?   Keep pointing out the theft--eventually it will change, or the US system will crash under its own weight.
commiecents
SinceOct 31, 2008
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February 16, 2013 1:16 am

CBS Sports put my thread back up.

Whoops! I thought she was a burgla...


I guess the famous troll gang had ruined it. 
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thanks pops, i'll have you know that I believe I am presently killing it on that same thread.
Yours, besides this one and the White Sox thread, are the only ones you'll see me on.


And toy,
i like you, but can you really expect top ten status when you run down my city day after day?

You gotta figure me for provincialness to the extreme, much like our neighbors to the North. 
PROFESSOR
SinceAug 15, 2006
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February 16, 2013 1:28 am

and OMG, among the S. Africa mes, the meteorite, and the asteroid, and Dorner , THE BIGGEST STORY THIS WEEK IS THAT BSTING THINKS I AM A PART OF THE MULTI CROWD OF HOPONPOP ,

W        T                  F  !!!!!!!!!!

How? How can this be?  
PROFESSOR
SinceAug 15, 2006
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February 16, 2013 1:33 am

not that there is a multi crowd of hoponpop, to think that who and cat are the same person, IMO, is not right ...

But let's think about it, what if it were true, so what?

We would still be talking ( hypothetically, mind you) about two different posters, imo it would take a lot of skill and extreme intelligence to do suh a thing.

Yes, pops has multis, but if you pay attention, he doesn't hide them, i believe he is too cool for that... 
PROFESSOR
SinceAug 15, 2006
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February 16, 2013 1:37 am

Holy Cow
i'm exhausted, if I'd waited a day to do my list - I'da put myself number 1 for the great stuff I just laid down on you all ... Good Night ! 
PROFESSOR
SinceAug 15, 2006
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February 16, 2013 1:40 am

bad example. you're comparing an electronic outbound transaction with a paper inbound transaction.

if you wrote a check instead of using a debit card for that purchase, the money would take a similar time period to be removed from your account as it takes to be deposited.

if you make a deposit with a debit card, it's won't take 3 to 5 days for the money to appear in your account.
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ok, every top ten list is flawed... just like the HoF admitted Ozzie Smith, I made a similar mistake by not including lulz on my list ....

MY BAD !  
PROFESSOR
SinceAug 15, 2006
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February 16, 2013 11:10 am

I've posted time and again what needs to be done.

commie, I am really surprise that you have posted a substantive discussion.  Congrats.  Now you know that I will disagree with most but let's begin.

Military cuts are fine.  Cutting back on foreign bases is good.  Foreign aid - reevaluate but not stop it.  Agree on stopping subsidies to old industries/old businesses/old farm subsidies.  New investment for new industries should continue.

We will never agree on federal standards and oversight.  I remember a time when states held back progress because of attitudes on race and poor people.  Some states still offer little help to get out of poverty by lack of funding and standards for education, healthcare and nutrition.  National standards evens out the disparity in the states.  Doesn't mean equality but a more even playing field.

QE is keeping inflation low somehow to give us a chance for better recovery and we are tapping into plenty of energy while protecting our environment.  Climate change is real and we need to be smart about energy resources.

.we, as voters need to keep talking about the unwillingness of the party bosses to change business as usual.

Absolutely, commie.  A $20 trillion debt will happen no matter what changes happen.  Our real concern should be slowing the increases in debt and lowering the ratio to GDP.  Balancing the budget is a 10 year project - anything quicker will cause another recession or worse.  Even cutting bad government spending too quickly can hurt the economy and what is bad government spending will still be debated.  No matter what the right says, we still need more revenue in this solution.  You even pointed out the subsidies that need to be stopped.  Some of them are tax breaks.  Eliminating lobbyists' tax loopholes increases revenue.  At some point, the middle class needs to pay more but, first, we need to strengthen the middle class.

Here is something that you might not agree with - we need to invest in our infrastructure right now.  That includes highways, energy grid, education and innovation.  We are falling behind our competitors in these areas.  In ten years, we will have jobs that we can't fill because our workforce will not have the skills unless we improve our educational system.  Infrastructure improvements should be a partnership between government and the private sector.  The private sector is already jumping in on education and we need to find more ways to include the private sector in these improvements.
BostonBeaner
SinceFeb 21, 2009
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February 16, 2013 4:45 pm

bad example. you're comparing an electronic outbound transaction with a paper inbound transaction.

if you wrote a check instead of using a debit card for that purchase, the money would take a similar time period to be removed from your account as it takes to be deposited.

if you make a deposit with a debit card, it's won't take 3 to 5 days for the money to appear in your account.


I worked in banking enough years to understand said concepts.  It's still computers and how you want to use them.   
bigred472
SinceOct 24, 2006
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February 16, 2013 4:48 pm

Funny, secfan......top 10, huh?   Well, that proves what bigred said a while back:  I'm an elitist.......


Hey you canbe a top ten poster even if you are wrong.  You do in fact stick to your guns.  The fact that you're 200 years behind the times in your thinking DOES make you and elitist  

bigred472
SinceOct 24, 2006
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February 16, 2013 5:19 pm

 THE BIGGEST STORY THIS WEEK IS THAT BSTING THINKS I AM A PART OF THE MULTI CROWD ...

biggest story, really?...and that would be impossible I suppose, huh Mr. Chummy?...

bsting3d
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 16, 2013 5:30 pm

ok, every top ten list is flawed...just like the HoF admitted Ozzie Smith, I made a similar mistake by not including lulz on my list ..

...i think the better question is why would YOUR top 10 list have any more value, or credibility on this board, than anyone elses???...if you're as "knowledgeable" and as "fair minded" as you claim to be, then perhaps you would have asked the board what their choices of best and worst posters are here...


....and I'll get it started...my top 3, and most consistent posters, not including myself in the vote,  in no particular order, Gas, Nathan, Big Red, I agree and disagree with them quite often, but they are at least consistent in their viewpoints....worst 3??....any combination of 3 multis from the clown posse...not even a close race for worst here...

bsting3d
SinceOct 18, 2006