Official Stop OBAMA Express!!!

the had the power and the $$$ to investigate anything and anyone at the school, and especially in the athletic dept...so no excuse for any stone left unturned

Maybe you don't get it - no investigation was needed.  THEY HAD IT ON TAPE.  

just like at Penn St.   

Nope, not at all like Penn St.  For one, if they had Sandusky on tape raping kids, pretty sure it would have gone down differently...

failure at the top level of authority    

I love how you make it out like 1) his crime was anywhere near that of Sandusky's, 2) that the university did nothing like Penn St with Sandusky, and 3) that getting fined $50k and suspended somehow isn't considered a punishment. 

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Maybe you don't get it - no investigation was needed.  THEY HAD IT ON TAPE. 

nathan, I agree with bsting in a way.  It is about universities not paying attention to abuse as much as they pay attention to having good teams.  It is not so much about the level of the abuse but about tolerating abuse.

Well, according to the ex-Rutgers AD, when the tape first surfaced among the responsable parties (the Pres. said the first he heard of it was when it appeared publically) he ( the AD ) thought that he should fire the coach but was "advised against it".  All in all, a more complicated issue than meets the press, but that is normal, and yet like normal, hue and cry is raised for instant firings amonst a public who bitterly complains about the press as well. 



Situation normal--human reaction instead of investigation.

Here is how much of a man's man I am-  I listen to jazz, not smooth jazz.

AYou mean that crap from the 40's & 50's that had no beat, no melody, & no lyrics?  

No.  I mean on the cable tv system.  

Channel 936  JAZZ  Discover the turth and essence of jazz with tracks from throughout jazz music's rich history.

Miles Davis, West Montgomery, John Coltrane, Theolonious Monk,  Stan Getz.


Channel 935  Smooth Jazz  Experince an eclectic blend of souful and polished grooves mixed with a myriad of pop and rock influences.

Lee Ritenour, David Benoit, The Rippingtons, Spyra Gyra,   George Benson  

You mean that crap from the 40's & 50's...

oh, he was actually referring to music??...I thought he was having his "coming out" moment...my bad...

Hilarious.

but still, there is this problem  of you being on a high horse

That's how those D's are.

Jim.  (RIP)

Yam.

bsting.
 

Well, according to the ex-Rutgers AD, when the tape first surfaced among the responsable parties (the Pres. said the first he heard of it was when it appeared publically) he ( the AD ) thought that he should fire the coach but was "advised against it".  All in all, a more complicated issue than meets the press, but that is normal, and yet like normal, hue and cry is raised for instant firings amonst a public who bitterly complains about the press as well.  



Situation normal--human reaction instead of investigation.

Good point, scelerat.

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Troll-fest.

You don't get tired of burning through 2-3 screennames a day to talk trash over the net to a stranger?

Just another screenname.  So much EFFORT and OBSSESSION on your part.  Is this how you pictured your retirement playing out?



I would think you would get tired of creating all the new email accounts...  all the new screen names.



Just born trolls talking trash because you are losing so many screen names...  WINNING!   

nathan, I agree with bsting in a way.  It is about universities not paying attention to abuse as much as they pay attention to having good teams.  It is not so much about the level of the abuse but about tolerating abuse...

ok, I see someone here can actually read and comprehend...lol....and in the Rutger's case its not even about "good" teams, but just saving face and avoiding negative publicity...why he continues to talk about the comparison of offenses is beyond me, that never was the point, Sandusky, or raping kids was not the point....the comment was about the 2 administrations lack of ACTION...after having years of warnings, and eyewitness testimony in one case, and a video in the other....and yes, I know he was eventually fired, but not because of the school's great  leadership at the outset, but because of public pressure from seeing the same tape that they saw months ago...the President was aware that there was a problem in the b'ball dept, was aware that there was a video out there, but chose NOT to view it...???

At a news conference Friday, Barchi said he first saw the video of Rice this week, but was aware it existed in late November. He said Pernetti gave him a summary of what was on it at the time.

"This was a failure of process. I regret that I did not ask to see this video when Tim first told me of its existence," Barchi said. "I want to apologize to the entire Rutgers community for the negative impact that this situation has had on Rutgers.

"I also apologize to the LGBT community and all of us who share their values for the homophobic slurs shown on that video. I personally know how hurtful that language can be."

Based on the information he received from Pernetti, Barchi said he "agreed with and supported his recommendation to suspend, rather than fire, coach Rice at that time. It was not until Tuesday evening of this week, when I watched the video, that I had the opportunity to witness personally for the first time what Tim had seen last fall.

"I was deeply disturbed by the behavior that the video revealed, which was much more abusive and pervasive than I had understood it to be. As Tim acknowledged on Wednesday, his decision to rehabilitate, rather than fire, coach Rice was wrong."

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1. A substance abuse problem may be mask of/or a "treatment" of an underlying mental problem.
2. Where is the logic in rehabillitating somebody for voluntary behavior?  like abusing drugs
3. but Not rehabilitating for a mental problem?

If drugs or alcohol "made" him do it-  he get's a pass.

Let's say his brain just isn't wired right-  not abusing drugs/alcohol- but with therapy/medication he can be rehabilitated. 

Besides, he can be suspended and fined.

A ZERO TOLERANCE program can be initated.  

Explain to the team.

Film all practices for 3 years. 

but with therapy/medication he can be rehabilitated....

ok...well he'll have some free time now to get that rehab, and I support his attempt at rehab 100%...but he doesn't deserve to be coach of anything today, not even his kids rec team...

Yes, that's the other side of it.

but still, there is this problem  of you being on a high horse lol

LOL..

I think I would have fired him, were I the A.D. but as scelerat intimated, he was "advised" about rehabilitation.  

Meaning- before he fired the guy he ran it by legal counsel.  

They likely advised him about the Americans with Disabilities Act.  

Not an expert but it's unlawful to fire somebody "with a disability."

From a legal standpoint, it can be argued that the school would be placed in less legal jeopardy if they went the punishment/rehabillitation/zero tolerance route. 

Hence, I probably would have given him a 2nd chance. CYA.

but still, there is this problem  of you being on a high horse lol

LOL...

Do you want us to start calling you Boss Man?






(I think he would)