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Sigh........I give you one sentence, CCB, and I wind up with you giving us all the eleven o' clock news! LOL....It's all good. I fully understand your rationale for allowing Peyton to leave. I didn't say I had to like it, and yes, I still think it was done poorly, BUT YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT. Forgetabout punctuality, we come here to share opinions about all things Colts. If I want an Op/Ed, I'll read the Washington Post. Let's get to the good part, like CCB says:

In order of priority, what should be on the Colts' wish list (Top 5 - Here's mine)

1) Offensive lineman / Cornerback - Best of who's left

2) Sub 4.4 Wideout w/ height (think Pierre Garcon with better hands)

3) Cornerback / Offensive lineman - Best of who's left

4) Cornerback

5) Offensive lineman

6) Defensive Tackle

7) Offensive lineman   


If we go with an OL 1st, then CB for a third pick or vice versa.  Of course, should the Colts and Dwight Freeney part ways (and I hope we can find a way to keep him - for less money), we might as well use the savings and go after Jake Long. Hmmmmmmmm!

HA! I suspect we'll be talking again real soon.........Much sooner than YOU anticipate. LMAO!!

well if any of you watched the national championship tonite, can we please get an alabama offensive lineman...all beasts

RB, I turned after 28-0, but Warmack & Jones are definitely legit, but will probably be off the board by the time we pick, but we can always hope can't we? 

I wind up with you giving us all the eleven o' clock news! LOL

I know, sorry, but unlike you guys I spend most of my time in the NFL general section and if you don't explain everything they always like to point out stuff you don't include so I try to include everything I can think of from force of habit and most of the time especially Skins fans it goes in both eyes and out the back of the head. I told them after Skins implemented the college Baylor/Nevada offense that it wouldn't turn out good for Robert and I was right and they fought and fought and now they want a more traditional pocket style system, they didn't learn till the end...

I didn't see anything wrong with how he was let go, Irsay could have pulled a "Farve" you know, so that was classy with an unconditional release and will hopefully get P.Manning to retire a Colts on a 1 day contract... We'll see... If he wins a SB with Denver this year he might be satisfied with proving people wrong and 1 more ring and just give it up and retire, again we'll see. The drama is on going :}

Go Colts!!!!!

My priority is o-line and I mentioned J.Long on another forum and got shot down as being too injured and I read that he might have to be paid 15.6 mil a year, and he isn't worth that...   

Not based on draft, just top priorities in FA and draft, I trust Mr. Grigson, but reserve the right to add my thoughts till the start of next season...

1. Offensive linemen--LG,C,RG,RT the guys on the line now in those positions are only back up material, they won't last a whole season...
2. Shut down corner--Not sure who right now, too early to even speculate.
3. Free Safety--Not sure who right now, too early to even speculate.
4. Awesome receiver--Wish for Calvin Johnson ;}
5. Strong Safety--Not sure who right now, too early to even speculate.
6. Keep Mathis as an OLB and get another one to replace Freeney--Not sure who right now, too early to even speculate.
7. I like Jerrod Allen's motor always running and he's all over the field on the RS and LS and that is hard to account for all the time, either him or another like him.
8. More to be added and or changed later, not set in stone, just end of season thinking :}

Ps. Again Go Colts!!!!! 

RB, you're right on the money regarding the 'Bama front line. The article below came out this AM.

Memo to Ryan Grigson: We want this guy:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo
tball/story/21512904/legacy-of-bama
s-jones-reaches-far-beyond-football
-field

It's a good read; everything about this guy screams Indianapolis!

CCB, we're close on a lot of picks, but I don't think we should spend too much time on safeties. I think we're okay in that area. The other spots are glaring weaknesses.

GO Colts!!

i think the secondary would be better if we could apply better pressure, freeney was a big disappointment this year. not only against the run but when rushing and using the spin move he seemed to be going to the ground more often. i think he was mentally not there this year due to him not liking and adjusting to the 3-4. although he seemed to line-up on the ball outside most times. when healthy powers is a good corner imo. but can we keep him on the field. if he is back he and davis at the corner are viable.

im hoping chapman comes back in a big way, completely healed he could fill a big void in the middle. there's lots of cash to spend WISELY, pls dont go after big name primadonna's.

kappa we need O&D Line players that have that mean streak. but all these guys played tough all year. there is no 1 on this team that got beat due to lack of effort. that in itself is a victory. but keep moving foward, there's a bright light ahead.

i will root for peyton to win the SB this year. would we still be playing if he was in the blue's, maybe. i highly opposed cutting him, but i will admit this franchise is in great shape for the future, rather than the next 3 years. 

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We appreciate the sentiments.

Now that we're spectators, Burn, you know where most of us are headed. Hope you have enough room on that bus!

GO COLTS!! 

Thanks Feel The Burn from a Colts fan, yea A.Luck and Ballard and the rest of the rookies are all keepers...

Ok now to Colts stuff...

Colts get the 24th 1st round pick as stated by multiple sites.

Who do they pick, oh that is a toughie?????

Listed in top draft prospect via NFL Draft on CBSSports.com

14.E.Fisher OT Central Michigan Sr 6-7 305
15.*S.Richardson DT Missouri rJr 6-3 295
16.J.Cooper OG North Carolina rSr 6-3 310
17.*S.Montgomery DE LSU rJr 6-5 260
18.*X.Rhodes CB Florida Stater Jr 6-1 217
19.J.Williams DT Alabama Sr 6-3 320
20.M.Barkley<span style="color: #0066cc;">   QB Southern California Sr 6-2 230---Don't need of course and he is not a 1st rounder pick, might fall to 3rd-6th I beleive...
21.L.Johnson OT Oklahoma Sr 6-6 303
22.A.Okafor DE Texas Sr 6-5 265
23.C.Patterson WR Tennessee Jr 6-3 205
24.E.Ansah DE Brigham Young Sr 6-5 270
25.T.Austin WR West Virginia Sr 5-9 175
26.*T.Eifert TE Notre Damer Jr 6-5 252
27.D.Jordon <span style="color: #0066cc;"> DE  Oregon rSr 6-6 243
28.*K.Minter ILBLSU rJr 6-1 245
29.J.Jenkins DT Georgia Sr 6-3 358
30.*M.Elam SS Florida Jr 5-1 202
31.*R.Woods WR Southern California Jr 6-1 190
32.J.Banks CB Mississippi State Sr 6-1 185

87.<3rd round--87. *Menelik Watson OT Florida State Jr 6-5 320<That's a big boy!!!!!
120.<4th round--3 listed at #120
120.M.Gillislee RB 9 Florida Sr 5-1 210
120.*D.Bakhtiari OT Colorador Jr 6-4 295
120.*N.Robey CB Southern California Jr 5-8 168

I saw a report that Colts got back the 6th round pick from Phins since Davis didn't meet the playing time clause, but the list still shows the Colts don't have that pick back, so we'll see... 

* = underclassmen
= injury

Before you go nuts on anything above it's just showing at those picks by that CBSSports site.

Like TV listings "Subject to chance without notice" :}LOL

Watch the Senior Bowl, Shanahan being one of the coaches in that bowl last year discovered Alfred Morris so there are players to watch for :}

Have a great off season all ;}   

wow great work ccb, there are some guys with size there. yes i also heard that the Colts got that pick back. question is do they keep the #1 or trade it to pick up a 2 and maybe 3 or 4th rd er. i guess it depends who's on the board. coming off last years draft, i will say i have the utmost confidence in the draft.

FYI....the talk on 660wfan radio is that arians will follow tedesco to san diego. i hope not, i would like to see arians calling plays for a couple more years. he did a great job with all the rookies. that experience is priceless. 

I agree with RB; great post CCB. Regarding Arians, my hope is that he stays, but I think one of the main reasons (along with his superior knowledge of player personnel - according to reports, he had compiled a mental assessment of most of the current starters on the Bolts) why they hired Tedesco was the possibility of having Arians coming aboard and continuing and ongoing relationship that functions well. Barring unforeseen circumstances, Arians is a goner. The question now becomes who do the Colts have in mind to replace him as OC? The foregone conclusion for most would be Clyde Christensen, but I'd prefer someone else. 

Phil, buddy, you beat me to it! I'm interested to see what others have to say.........

I hear Nov Turner going to the Browns, what do you think about him coming to the Colts ? I have looked around and all I have seen is that the Colts are making a list but no names were made public. Go Colts !!

Phil, a list is good. It means that they haven't automatically decided to give the job to Christensen.

I hope the list is long.


Oh, and while we're at it, Houston514, now would be a really good time this weekend for your beloved Texans to perform like they "won the AFC South".....if you know what I mean! You want to see how hard it is to get to the Super Bowl? First things first; let's see if you can win on the road in Foxborough against a team that previously beat you by 4 TDs.

Will you stomp with the big dawgs or piddle like a puppy? We'll know on Sunday night......No pressure!


GO Colts!   

i'd rather not see clyde as OC. norv would be good he did wonders with the Cowboys and his input in SD was invaluble. he's just not a good HC. i want a more traditional offense. more like what we ran with edge. so i hope we move in that direction. selfishly id prefer to keep arians, but you have to strike when the iron is hot. and his time is now. i like what ballard did behind a patchwork OL the last 6 weeks. he runs fearlessly. addai used to run that way until the injury bug had him tiptoeing the last 3 years. 

 

Good post, RB, and all true. If Arians gets the nod, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't, I wish him all the best. His story hopefully has a happy ending. Anybody watching the Broncos & Ravens? That last Denver drive, culminating in a TD to Moreno, was vintage Peyton Manning. I LOVE the way the man dissects a defense.

HE... SIMPLY.... HAS ....NO... EQUAL!

I can't say GO B _ _ _ _  _ S, So I'll just go with

GO PEYTON!! 

Colts made the right decision with letting P.Manning go and getting A.Luck...

Go Colts!!!!!

 

The Cincinnati Bengals saved $8.5 million of cap room in 2012 and made the playoffs for the second consecutive year. They have $55.1 million of room. But over half their roster will be in free agency also...

The Cleveland Browns saved $14.3 million of room in 2012 and now have $48.9 million.

After being tight against the cap in 2012, the Indianapolis Colts now have $46 million of room. By league rules Colts have to spend at least $36 million minimum of the $46 million...

If either of these teams have similar interests in FA player/players then the Colts might be caught in bidding war/wars, lets hope not...

Colts are better off getting the o-line from the draft and then the players are stuck in the contract cost on where they are selected in the draft which is quite less than an older player in free agency, and after the draft then go after players in FA that are cost effective, Colts need to resign their current FA that they want to keep.

Mentioned tonight during the GB v Niners game the Niners have 3 1st round picks on there o-line and are just about the best, we need that for the Colts, A.Costanzo is the best on the line all year and healthy add 4 more that are better and will all equal out with all 5, the starters this year are only good for backup since a whole year being healthy is not possible and then in the 2014 draft then work on the D and get some fresh defensive players. I'm all excited about the off season :} Hurry up draft day :}

P.Macfee (K) FA Need Kept-is a priority.

D.Avery (WR) FA Need Kept.

D.Butler (DB) FA Need Kept.

A.Collie (WR) FA Gone-Be unsigned, replaced by Griff Whalen.

A.J.Edds (LB) RFA Maybe Kept.

M.Fokou (LB) FA Need Kept.

D.Freeney (DL) FA Gone-He will be unsigned.

J.Gordy (DB) ERFA If Kept. Three Yr. Vet. Minimum.

T.Hills (G) FA Maybe Kept.

W.Justice (T) FA Need Kept.

A.Johnson (DL) FA Need Kept.

D.Karim (RB) ERFA If Kept. Three Yr. Vet. Minimum.

J.Linkenbach (T) RFA Need Kept.

F.Moala (DL) FA Need Kept.

M.Moore (RB) FA Maybe kept after the fumble on the goal line?????

S.Olsen (LB) RFA Maybe Kept.

J.Powers (DB) FA depends on draft and FA.

J.Reitz (G) ERFA If Kept. Three Yr. Vet. Minimum.

D.Stanton (QB) FA Gone, have Mr. Irrelevant C.Harnish if still on practice squad.

M.Tevaseu (DL) ERFA If Kept. Three Yr. Vet. Minimum.

J.Westerman (LB) FA Gone.

C.Vaughn (DB) RFA Need Kept.
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We'll see how it all plays out. Grigson has a big job ahead of him, lets see if he is a genius again, I have faith :}  

I didn't know this, so thought I would share..

An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent (ERFA) is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams. They are "free" only in the sense that they're free to quit.

Go Colts!!!!!  

"Will you stomp with the big dawgs or piddle like a puppy? We'll know on Sunday night...."


Well sir, that puppy is peeing like a racehorse on Lasix. And out of all of the games played this weekend, this was the one that was an overwhelming blowout. Welcome to the post-season spectator section with the rest of us.

Since we're both out of it, 514, good luck in the off-season. From the looks of things, Schaub still has growing to do. Other than that, a few tweaks here and there and you'll be a force to be reckoned with again next season. Barring injury, we should be right there too.

i feel bad for manning, dejavu...like the game vs the Jets drive down kick the 3 under a minute left and the Colts give up a 50yd ko return to cromartie then lose on a 3. then a 70yd td pass with 30+ seconds left. that game never should have gone to OT.

SB against the Saints under a minute left the colts from inside the 10 yd line run the ball into the line 3 times punt and give the saints time to kick a FG to end the half. on saturday 3rd - 8 from midfield and fox takes the ball out of his hands. then again with 31 seconds left in regulation and 2 time outs....

there is no excuse for the pass in OT. but you cant take the ball out of his hands at the end of the game. just a week before luck got the colts in posistion for a FG with 22 seconds left against the same team. you cant play not to lose in this league. especially when you play at full throttle for 17 weeks prior.


 and 514 with all that talent on O, they have to be better. again i blame the HC. kubiak has underachieved with this team for years. 


enogh on everyone else, colts time..ccb rietz had concucsion issues i think right, will be interesting to see how that fares. karim added a weapon the team hasnt had in years. i'd like to see him in the preseason at RB, i think he'd be good to spell ballard. no more moore. moore was an arians guy from pitt. im not to confident in carter as a back up.

i like the lb fioko ( dont know his name) but he came across the entire field passing everyone to catch the kid from the Ravens. you cant teach speed

so much to talk about, i cant for the draft

i think the ravens match up well against the pats, im not a big fan of mike smith in atlanta. but i also think GB's D is overrated. had Joe Webb not been the QB for minny, i thought the Vikings win that game.

so im goin raven/falcons for the whole enchilada..... 

I trust Grigson right now, he's a 10X better evaluator than C.Polian just in his 1st year with the Colts.

J.Reitz 2 concussions late this year he might be a "If Kept" on all the ERFA I just went the safe route and did the If Kept since there iffy players by in large...

I can understand the ERFA tag since if a team takes a chance on a un-drafted FA why if he works out and after they spend the time and effort to bring him along why should they loose him after 2 years if the player is keep-able either you resign or you quit the team and out of the league for a year...

A.Collie had concussion problems all his career and he's in the position to get them and often, not so much for o-linemen like Reitz and with the now increasing concussion scare they are being more in the be safe than sorry modes for the foreseeable future. So A.Collie is pretty much done and be forced to retire since no other team will want to take a chance. And it's such a shame too, he had that rare talent :{

Yea the M.Moore I listed as a "maybe kept after the goal line fumble?????" He did make that out of the backfield down the sideline catch, is that enough to be 'Kept" hummmmm????? We'll see...

I think Carter is a BIG question too, if let go they wouldn't be picked up so they could possible come back and how about letting Deji Karim have a shot, he's another ERFA so it's either resign or say bye bye so we know if offered he'll resign and cheaply too...

So many Ifs in the off season, going to be interesting :}

Go Colts!!!!!    

Okay, so Denver's former OC becomes San Diego's new HC. I was really worried that BA would follow Telesco to Cali. Either he's made up his mind on another HC position or he's consulted his family and decided that he's perfectly content to stay with Pagano. My guess is that Grigson will renegotate Arians' contract to be commensurate with newly appointed head coaches and give BA the right of first refusal to the position should Pagano step down because of health reasons. That sounds like a best case scenario - not wishing anything negative on Coach Pags. In fact I hope he's HC for a long time to come.

GO Colts! 

p.s. - I'll bet Manning exerted his influence and "recommended" Mike McCoy for the HC position in San Diego. This opens up the door for who to become Denver's next OC?




Tom Moore.

yeah kappa but i think moore is done. reports are weisenhunt,BA supposedly out in chicago too.looking better for us that he'll be back

Hey Kappa, they are saying out here that Bruce Arinas is going to be named the coach of the Cards, he will get a 4 year deal. Ok, if it's true and he is gone, what move do the Colts make ? Norv's gone, do we promote Clyde ? How about Wisenhunt ( I know I spelled it wrong but you know who I mean ) or do we look to the college ranks ? Give me your take and let me know what's being said. The wife & I are looking at leaving Northern California for the desert of Arizona. Now it looks a little more interesting. As always Go Colts !

I don't think the QBs from last year will work with Arians system in AZ... KC at #1 also need a QB and the Jags #2 need a QB also and if either one gets Geno Smith than later Cards at the 7th pick there will be I suspect be Matt Barkley still there but he missed the whole season almost at USC with shoulder injury and still didn't play in the bowl game so being a 1st round pick is a stretch I believe. So since Arians like his QB to throw I don't think M.Barkley will work there, what other QB would you fans Cards would consider?????

Multiple mock drafts have Geno Smith #1 and a few have other players going #1 to KC, so does Arizona wait at 7 and cross their fingers or what can Arizona do to move up from #7 to get Geno Smith????? Would Cards trade the older WR Fitz to move higher to KC to try and get Geno and get a younger wide out with next pick or later to replace fitz????? B.Arians can work wonders with Geno I believe!!!!! Would be awesome if the Cards could, I don't want him wasting away in KC and or being in the AFC South on the Jags... Guess well see in around 3 months... Good luck BA!!!!!

Now I wasn't really sold on BA system 100% but he was a good Rookie teacher I'll give him that, I wanted less down field throwing and more to show off A.Luck mobility maybe next guy will do that, older coaches have their system and tend to be non flexible, I want a younger up and coming throw every into the mix to move the ball and more no huddle and quicker get to the line and get the play going to put the D on their heals like the Pats do on the goal line, your professional pick it up a couple notches and we all saw the hurry up to the line A.Luck did quite a few times but could have been more...

All the older OC are taken up by other teams and time to find the next younger OC to give the offense a punch... I was kind of stuck on BA staying so now I will be looking at who would be a perfect younger OC and I hope Grigson has one already on the line, he's got to have a favorite and I assume of course Pagano will have to approve too, is his approval need to hire a Grigson choice?? well we'll see!! Around 3 months till the draft!!!!!  

Go Colts!!!!!   

Well Kappa, Pep Hamilton is the new OC for our Indianapols Colts. I like what I'm reading about him. It looks like Luck is happy about the hire. I like it, let's see what the rest of you think ! As always Go Colts !!

well phil, i dont know much about him. but he has seemed to keep a solid balanced offense at stanford. hopefully we become more balanced also...

Hi RB, I just herd a rumor that the Colts Offensive line coach, Harold Goodwin is going to Arizona with Bruce Arinas. I'm not sure how I feel about that but I hope BA doesn't raid our staff. The more I hear about Hamilton, the more I like. Go Colts !!