2013 Free agents

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2013 Free agents

February 4, 2013 8:59 pm

Max avoids arb. One year at 6.725 Mil. So that means we sit at around 147 Mil for 1 players. As expected with the many arb cases and Hunter opening day payroll probably right around 150 mil. still around 15-17 mil short of the luxury tax. Should a move need to be made in the season.
Sounds like the right amount of money for one special cog come the training deadline.
themuzzer
SinceOct 17, 2006
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2013 Free agents

February 4, 2013 8:59 pm
I'd have to say were posistioned well.
themuzzer
SinceOct 17, 2006
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February 4, 2013 9:00 pm
Sounds like the right amount of money for one special cog come the training deadline.
trading deadline.
themuzzer
SinceOct 17, 2006
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February 4, 2013 10:59 pm
When do pitchers and catchers report?  Should be great season,  Good Luck (somewhere) Papa Grande.
kengel6
SinceJul 28, 2007
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February 5, 2013 6:41 pm
more idiocy from the moron that is keth Law. organizational system rankings show Tigers at # 25 and the Giants at # 26. Ummmmmh who played in the WS last season. oh yeah thats right Tigers and giants.
adrian82
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 6, 2013 2:22 pm
Keith Laws Tigers top 10

Nick
Garcia
Rondon
Collins
vasquez
suarez
schotts
thompson
crosby
Robinson

well I guess the first three are no brainers. But last years second rounder Jake Thompson has barely pitched and Robinson really hasn't cracked any other top twenty . Steven Moya should be in the top 10. I have to admit barely knowing who Montreal Robinson is. I do know who Moya is. Moya a huge 6-7 270 lb outfielder with tremendous power.
adrian82
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 6, 2013 5:37 pm
Adrian, do you REALLY think the Tigers have a good minor league system?  Looking at the Tigers org without Tigers colored glasses reveals a very flawed system.  The minor league team W-L records last year supports that position as well, with an overall 393-432 record last year which includes the two highest classification teams, Toledo and Erie, having horrible records last year.
hockeydad55
SinceFeb 23, 2008
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February 6, 2013 6:12 pm
No I do not think their system is all that great. However I wouldn't even look at w/l records ever as any indication. one thing to consider is the trades and picks they have given up for players.

in the last 2 years this is what the Tigers have given up to obtain players

first round for prince who is 28

Turner and Brantley for Infante and Sanchez who are 30 and 28

Martinez, furbush, wells and first round pick Ruffin for 28 year old (now) Fister.

first round pick to sign Victor.

Players most productive seasons are from 26 to 33 so the Tigers have sent a fair amount of talent for guys who with the exception of Vmart in the prime of their careers. Tigers only starter older than 30 is Vmart.

The only real problem is getting players after the first round to be productive. Only Dirks and Avila have been non first round picks that are contributing.
adrian82
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 6, 2013 8:23 pm

I agree that the Tigers are set up to benefit from big time players in their prime.  The trades and free agent acquisitions worked out very well.  They managed to swap 2 good prospects and some fringe prospects and picks for some real major league talent.  We should give DD some credit for that.

But of course that doesn't factor into anyone's rankings of minor league systems.  If anything, at best it helps explain why the minor league system is not very good.  I have a hard time faulting Laws for ranking the Tigers minor league org as #26 in the league.  Realistically, it's probably about right.

And I know W-L records have to be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to evaluating the org.  Not totally useless, but not a perfect indicator either.  I do think, however, that the poor records of Toledo and Erie last year reflect the lack of many real prospects at those levels.  The talent in the upper minors for the Tigers is not very good.

hockeydad55
SinceFeb 23, 2008
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February 6, 2013 9:38 pm
Reported today......

[""According to SI's Tom Verducci], the name of Tigers shortstop Jhonny Peralta appears in the records of the Biogenesis clinic that's being investigated by MLB as a possible supplier of PEDs. Peralta's name is not mentioned in connection with any specific banned substance.

As Verducci notes, Peralta's attorney, Barry Boss, released a statement from his client: "I have never used performance-enhancing drugs. Period. Anybody who says otherwise is lying."

The 30-year-old Peralta is coming off a season in which he batted .239/.305/.384 and tallied 13 homers and 32 doubles in 150 games played.""

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Well....if Mr. Peralta was using PED last season - he should ask for his money back. They didn't work!


Iffster
SinceSep 12, 2011
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February 7, 2013 5:22 pm
Felix Hernandez gets a 7 year, $175 million contract today. No doubt that paves the way for a larger one for Justin Verlander. I see a 7 year deal for JV to get very close to $200 million.
Iffster
SinceSep 12, 2011
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February 8, 2013 3:14 pm
I see a 7 year deal for JV to get very close to $200 million.

It really depends on how soon JV wants to re-negotiate. If he waits until his contract is up and he continues to pitch well, you are probably right. If he signs over the next 6 months his contract will be similar to Felix's, maybe an additional $5M.
jalopy
SinceNov 26, 2006
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February 9, 2013 12:46 pm
wowYankees have 44 non roster players coming to big league camp. So that means 88 players in camp. Who do they think they are an SEC football team. Can only take 25 north. For a team with a 200 mil payroll I would think most of the roster is set.
adrian82
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 10, 2013 10:35 am
Yankees have 44 non roster players coming to big league camp. 

IMO the Yankees are panicked right about now! Their infield is a mess with A Roid out, Jeter out for awhile, Texaria underperforming, and Cano the only regular worth anything right now. 

The OF isn't much better with Granderson in a tailspin.

The rotation has some promise but isn't without question.

And a reliever that is old and coming off a blown knee. Granted he was the best in the game but time catches up with everybody.

The minor league system isn't on par with say the Rays and what they do have is New Yorled overhyped!

They have brought alot of guys in that at best are 20-25 roster spot types.

Funny I think the Orioles and Blue Jays have them really worried as they may fall behind the Rays, Jays, and Os! 
JDW126
SinceDec 28, 2007
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February 10, 2013 10:37 am
As for the Tigers system it needs work but with a relatively young roster they only need 3-4 guys to make it. 

A middle infielder, an outfielder and a couple pitchers are what Detroit will need over the next 3-4 years.

But if the roster gets shaken apart due to payroll all bets are off and the Tigers are in trouble. 
JDW126
SinceDec 28, 2007
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February 10, 2013 1:45 pm
OF probably the deepest in the system (garcia, castellanos, Moya, Collins, schotts, fields and Vasquez ) probably a bit heavy in the OF as far as their top 20 prospects.  middle IF probably on the light side. SP also on the light side, although i can see DD pulling the trigger on SP with their first 2 picks this June.
adrian82
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 15, 2013 4:06 pm
With only a couple of everyday players over 30, the Tigers do have time to re-stock the minor league system.  But very soon they have to back off on trading away top prospects.


howie115
SinceJun 13, 2007
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February 15, 2013 4:30 pm
well with the Marlins trade the Tigers get their first round. the marlins CB pick and their second round. so they pick 21, 37 and I believe 58. They didn't pick last June until # 91. So they should be able to get some good talent. However the main issue is they need to get players outside of the first round to develop.
adrian82
SinceOct 18, 2006
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February 7, 2013 7:30 pm
the jhonny alleged accusations may call into question his 2011 season. Highest OPS since 2005, hr total since 2008 and highest BA for his career. Since he didn't however fail a drug test in 2011 may just lead to suspicion. however if he breaks out another 2012 season the murmurs will get louder.
adrian82
SinceOct 18, 2006