The Ditch

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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 1:14 pm
Andrew Desjardins' match penalty for his open-ice hit on Chicago Blackhawks
forward Jamal Mayers has been rescinded.

Yeah. But as I said in my semi long rant of a post that really doesn't matter because the Sharks lost the hockey game after a terrible call by a referee.  Of course they had to rescind the match penalty, it was a legal hit and they had no choice but to do exactly that.

What I'd like to see is some suspensions for players who instigate a fight after a hit like Keith did yesterday and too many NHL players to count do on a consistent basis.  I'm sick of games being delayed after almost every hard hit in the league.  It wouldn't bug me nearly as much if the fights were only after bad hits, but they aren't.  The useless attacking and scrums and fights are after almost every big hit, even legal ones.  Getting really, REALLY SICK OF  THAT CRAP !!!!!  

Either follow the NFL's newer policy and rule and say hitting a "defenseless player" is against the rules or start punishing the morons who want to fight anybody who makes a legal hit on their teammates.   Pick one NHL..... is hitting allowed or not?   Personally I don't like those hits.  I never liked  the "keep your head up or die" mentality they have in hockey.   I was always a huge fan of Lidstrom for being an expert at taking players off the puck and out of a play without ending anybody's career.   But for every Lidstrom there are 10 others who look for an opportunity to crush somebody's skull into the ice or boards.   That's the problem.
redwings1969
SinceJun 25, 2009
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 1:31 pm
Speaking of crushed skulls and fights, Cromeen asked to go back out on the ice for the second period. Thankfully the staff said 'no'. I dunno if his helmet popped off from the punch or saw Rinaldo's fist and just decided to run for cover. That thing went flyin
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 1:34 pm
I'm sick of games being delayed after almost every hard hit in the league.  It wouldn't bug me nearly as much if the fights were only after bad hits, but they aren't.  The useless attacking and scrums and fights are after almost every big hit, even legal ones.  Getting really, REALLY SICK OF  THAT CRAP !!!!! 

 


this, so very much.

FortheLulz
SinceSep 25, 2008
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 1:38 pm
If its a clean hit, I have a problem with dirty revenge. However, a nice hard CLEAN check in response next time they meet is fair play
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 1:54 pm
If its a clean hit, I have a problem with dirty revenge

If it's a clean hit I have a problem with any revenge.  Even a player or teammate of a player dropping the gloves in response to a clean hit drives me nuts because it slows down the game and to me is a complete waste of time.   Forcing a player who made the hit to either turtle and embarrass himself or to fight and miss at least 5 minutes of the game in my opinion is ridiculous.  A player making a legal hit shouldn't be forced to fight anybody.  A player making a legal hit should never be forced to sit out 5 minutes or more and certainly shouldn't be forced to risk being hurt in a fight for a hit the NHL says is perfectly legal.   Finally one last thing.  Although I may have implied that instigating a fight after a dirty hit is better then after a clean hit doesn't mean I like that either. Referees are supposed to take care of dirty hits and if the ref misses the dirty hit you can bet the league won't.  Once again slowing down the game makes absolutely no sense to me at all.  It's not just the fight that follows, it's the 8 to 10 man scrum with all the pushing and shoving and waste of time that drives me crazy.   Asking 3 officials to separate and control 8 or 10 players bigger then they are is a little too much to ask.
redwings1969
SinceJun 25, 2009
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:01 pm
I'm not disagreeing with you. If a person check someone hard but clean, they shouldn't have to find themselves defending their actions with their fists. However, they shouldn't be surprised if someone takes their number and stores it for equal retribution. Not dirty. Just tit for tat. Watch. Tit is gonna get censored.
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:02 pm
Hm. Surprise surprise.
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:12 pm
i think tits**** is censored tho.
FortheLulz
SinceSep 25, 2008
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:13 pm
yep. speak of them only individually :)
FortheLulz
SinceSep 25, 2008
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:18 pm
One tit two tit red tit blue tit
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:28 pm
What I'd like to see is some suspensions for players who instigate a fight after a hit like Keith did yesterday and too many NHL players to count do on a consistent basis.  I'm sick of games being delayed after almost every hard hit in the league.  It wouldn't bug me nearly as much if the fights were only after bad hits, but they aren't.  The useless attacking and scrums and fights are after almost every big hit, even legal ones.  Getting really, REALLY SICK OF  THAT CRAP !!!!!  
I would love fines after instigating penalties when it turned out that a legal play took place.     It's really annoying.   Some teams also create momentum from legal hits and they're forced to lose it because of the ridiculous stuff, either change the rules about hitting or implement harsher rules about instigation, this inbetween phase we're seeing....squish, just like grape.


hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:29 pm
tit


hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:30 pm
That was more fun than it should have been.
hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:37 pm
Mr. Bob Miyagi
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:41 pm
Lets see if this flies. Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:43 pm
K. Now lets just do their last name. Kostitsyn
Red Hessian
SinceFeb 8, 2007
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:56 pm
Mr. Myogi was Kusaka in Midway.   He duped Daniel-san into thinking he played for team USA.    Still waiting for "Karate Kid...the real Myogi"
hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 2:57 pm
I think I stopped waiting in 1985, but I'll renew my vow to find justice.
hockeybob
SinceJul 1, 2010
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The Ditch

February 6, 2013 3:06 pm
Some teams also create momentum from legal hits and they're forced to lose it because of the ridiculous stuff, either change the rules about hitting or implement harsher rules about instigation, this inbetween phase we're seeing....squish, just like grape.
Even worse then just losing the momentum is after a player who makes a legal hit gets his ass kicked in a fight ( especially on the road) momentum completely shifts in the other team's favor.   It's just stupid.

I don't think the NHL will ever change the rules on hitting, or at least they probably won't make any major changes.  The "keep your head down and die" mentality has always been there and will probably never disappear.  As long as a player has the puck or the puck is near that player and his head is down he could easily get crushed.  The only way I believe I could be wrong and the league changes its ways is if and only if superstars in the NHL start going down at a rapid pace.  If a lot of star players who people pay to see start getting seriously injured the league might take notice and actually do something about it.  But right now I don't see them doing a damn thing.

Which leads me to a question or two. Wouldn't it be better for the league if those hits disappear for good?  Does anybody on these boards want their favorite team to lose a superstar just because the guy's head was down?   People on these boards have said yes, they're willing to accept that as part of the game but I don't believe them.  I think they're saying that because it's not happening to their team at the present time.   Pittsburgh is not going to win a cup without Crosby.  Chicago will struggle to contend without Keith or Kane or Toews.  Detroit is nothing without Datsyuk or Zetterberg.  Vancouver isn't winning anything without the twins, even if they sometimes do choke or disappear in the playoffs.   Do any of us really want any of those players to be hurt on a "good hit"?  I'll answer for myself and say no way, I want no part of that at all. 
redwings1969
SinceJun 25, 2009