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Hmm, whaddaya know, turns out they were

As long as VP's logic says Sam Bradford is a few great playoff performances away from being elite, I am all good with that.

As long as VP's logic says Sam Bradford is a few great playoff performances away from being elite, I am all good with that.

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Well then you won't be very good with that, since as I've already mentioned multiple times..... don't consider Flacco elite

Nor do I consider Bradford's regular season numbers identical to Flacco's

Well then you won't be very good with that, since as I've already mentioned multiple times..... don't consider Flacco elite

You said somthing like he is close to elite, so I will take that as well. Glad we finally cleared up your true opinion of Bradford. You had been fooling yourself for so long.

You said somthing like he is close to elite, so I will take that as well. Glad we finally cleared up your true opinion of Bradford. You had been fooling yourself for so long.

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I said he's borderline at best, and that's based solely on him having a historically great postseason performance, culminating in a Super Bowl and SB MVP (even though I thought JJ was the most deserving)


Take away that, and he's a classic middle of the road QB. And that classic middle of the road QB has better numbers than Bradford, who is a below average QB

Take away that, and he's a classic middle of the road QB. And that classic middle of the road QB has better numbers than Bradford

One more chance to redeem your intelligence card.

What else does Flacco have that Bradford does not other than his post season performances and team wins?

What else does Flacco have that Bradford does not other than his post season performances and team wins?

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Better numbers and the knowledge that he can be counted on for 16 games a year

Better numbers and the knowledge that he can be counted on for 16 games a year

Coward.

Have you ever listened to a post game interview?    

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Yes, and all the Yankees say how great a teamate ARod is and how they love playing with him...yadda yadda.

"everthing an athlete says in a post game interview is gospel!" -      

What else does Flacco have that Bradford does not other than his post season performances and team wins?

a career QB Rating 9 points points higher

a completion% at 60.5 (cause i've been told many times 60% is the mark)

Y/A at 7.1

highest amount of INT's in a season: 12, Bradford: 13, 15 in the only 2 years he's played 16 games.

Bradford 20 TD's 1, Flacco 4 times

 

a career QB Rating 9 points points higher

a completion% at 60.5 (cause i've been told many times 60% is the mark)

Y/A at 7.1

highest amount of INT's in a season: 12, Bradford: 13, 15 in the only 2 years he's played 16 games.

Bradford 20 TD's 1, Flacco 4 times

"Players don't matter."

"Michael Jordan can win on his own, why can't Sam Bradford?"

~VP and JETS

LOL


dude so your going to argue, nothing matters


if stats dont matter cause he has better players, and wins dont matter cause he has better players.......than what the Eff matters?
 

dude so your going to argue, nothing matters

That is your argument.

"players don't matter."

"Michael Jordon won rings by himself why can't Bradford?"

LOL


dude so your going to argue, nothing matters


if stats dont matter cause he has better players, and wins dont matter cause he has better players.......than what the Eff matters?

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He wants to include a caveat for every variable except the ones that are inconvient for his argument


So he wants to take into account Flacco's receivers.... but not the fact that Bradford plays on a fast track in a dome, or that he played 1 game in the last 2 months in a cold weather city (whereas Flacco played all but 2 games in a cold weather city)


And he wants to take into account Ray Rice.... but not the fact that Flacco's postseason performance (which is pretty much the only reason anyone considers him elite) was despite Ray Rice having like 14 fumbles in the postseason

He wants to include a caveat for every variable except the ones that are inconvient for his argument

Having a chitty supporting cast and offensive line is not a caveat. That is the meat and potatoes if you will.

And he wants to take into account Ray Rice.... but not the fact that Flacco's postseason performance (which is pretty much the only reason anyone considers him elite) was despite Ray Rice having like 14 fumbles in the postseason

The Ravens RBs had 4 fumbles all year long.

sigh.


when will you guys learn.

QB is in a league of its own.

Here you all are throwing around passing yards and TDs...


Tony Romo and Phillip Rivers throw lots of yards too...guess what, they are not "elite", I wouldn't even put either of them in my "second tier"

bottom line is QB's need to play well on 3rd downs, 2 minute drills, 4th quarters and playoff games.

QBs who do that will always be evaluated higher, always. 

bottom line is QB's need to play well on 3rd downs, 2 minute drills, 4th quarters and playoff games

You forgot Red Zone. And I suppose to Bradford haters that having 17 rushing touchdowns doesn't make things easier on the QB.

You forgot Red Zone. And I suppose to Bradford haters that having 17 rushing touchdowns doesn't make things easier on the QB.

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hasnt bradford had stephen jackson with him his entire career?

 

hasnt bradford had stephen jackson with him his entire career?

Which number is larger 5 rushing TDs or 17?

Whats that?? You need an offensive line to run the ball?

Which number is larger 5 rushing TDs or 17?

Whats that?? You need an offensive line to run the ball?

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wasnt stephen jackson once considered elite?

 

and what are we arguing, cause let me ask this



Does anyone on here consider Joe Flacco elite? 

Does anyone on here consider Joe Flacco elite? 

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There's no rarer commodity in the NFL than a QB who can carry a team to the Super Bowl.

Flacco just did that.

Does anyone on here consider Joe Flacco elite? 

In his time in the NFL, he has performed better than any other QB in the post season.

That is not elite?

Does anyone on here consider Joe Flacco elite? 

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im leaning that way

most wins of any QB in the game since 2008, plus his post season resume

and that team isnt all about defense like they used to be

 

Does anyone on here consider Joe Flacco elite?

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not unless he plays in New England

wasnt stephen jackson once considered elite?

What is your point?

I will argue that in the long run, over a season, Good pitchers win, bad pitchers lose!

Steve Carlton once one 25% of his teams entire wins for the season!! 

I'll say it may have its significane in terms of HOF. Because having a bunch of wins does illustrate sustained sucess.

But really..I don't need W/l to tell me which pitcher was better, When I can just look at ERA and IP...